you are in the BB - SB opencompl. checks flop. autobet?

[ninenine_zoe]

since we are table/seat selecting well, we have the loose passives/maniacs/donks to our right. in some rare occassions its folded to the SB and you are sitting in the BB. SB opencompletes.
i think i raise a lot of BB starting hands there and i am fine with this.
sometimes my hand is really not strong enough to raise. so i check behind (unless this donk has folded to a raise after an opencomplete before).
some flop appears and its checked to you. do you autobet every flop?
as example:

Paradise Poker 1/2 Hold'em (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (2 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets?</font>

if he raises me here, its an easy fold.
what adjustments do you make after that?

[emKay]

I bet here, yes. I wouldn't bet a draw-heavy flop against an CS but in any other case this is an autobet.

After getting raised obviously don't do something like that again against the same villain. But - these situations really don't occur that often.

[MrWookie]

Guruman and I have debated this subject quite a bit. Read this:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...Number=5472834

In summary, as soon as the SB open completes, you need to make up your mind as to which mistake he's more likely to make: folding too much, or calling too much. If he's someone who folds too much, your best plan may be to raise preflop, even with this hand, and then bet any flop. If he calls too much, you'll get more folds from him by taking this line. If I check in my BB, I'm betting any flop when checked to 100% of the time unless SB is very good and he and I have some pretty extensive history, implying there's nth level thinking going on.

[aargh57]

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In summary, as soon as the SB open completes, you need to make up your mind as to which mistake he's more likely to make: folding too much, or calling too much. If he's someone who folds too much, your best plan may be to raise preflop, even with this hand, and then bet any flop. If he calls too much, you'll get more folds from him by taking this line.

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I don't know if I'm reading you right. Are you saying pf you should raise if he folds too much but if he calls too much you should [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] raise??

[Scary_Tiger]

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In summary, as soon as the SB open completes, you need to make up your mind as to which mistake he's more likely to make: folding too much, or calling too much. If he's someone who folds too much, your best plan may be to raise preflop, even with this hand, and then bet any flop. If he calls too much, you'll get more folds from him by taking this line.

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I don't know if I'm reading you right. Are you saying pf you should raise if he folds too much but if he calls too much you should [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] raise??

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No he's saying you should take this line which means check preflop and bet if checked to.

[aargh57]

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In summary, as soon as the SB open completes, you need to make up your mind as to which mistake he's more likely to make: folding too much, or calling too much. If he's someone who folds too much, your best plan may be to raise preflop, even with this hand, and then bet any flop. If he calls too much, you'll get more folds from him by taking this line.

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I don't know if I'm reading you right. Are you saying pf you should raise if he folds too much but if he calls too much you should [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] raise??

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No he's saying you should take this line which means check preflop and bet if checked to.

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OK, I get it now. It just sounded confusing. By this line, you mean the line OP took. So in other words, OP would've taken the correct line against a caller but a better line against a folder would've been to raise pf.

Remember, you can't put too much water in a nuclear power plant.

[djhoneybear]

I raise alot of hands here preflop for two reasons. You can encourage the SB to give up his bet without a fight in the future and you can make use of alot more flops (any flop with an A, K or Q) plus the ones your hand actually hits.

I bet-fold on the flop nearly 100% of the time. Its nice to have a HUD running so you can see how often he calls a continuation bet.

[ILOVEPOKER929]

With no reads, I autobet here 100% of the time and if called I give up on the hand unless I hit something. Be careful however of those tags/lags that like to play in opposite world who will only donk the flop when they have nothing or a draw, but will always check the flop when they have a pair. Against these guys, betting the flop is suicide, but you should be bluffraising the flop against these guys a lot more often even in this small pot.

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Why didn't you raise this hand pre-flop for value? you are a heavy favorite against 2 random cards.

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[Scary_Tiger]

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Why didn't you raise this hand pre-flop for value? you are a heavy favorite against 2 random cards.

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jopke?