TPTK 200nl

Alex1212 · #1 07-28-2006, 05:03 PM

Villian is 26/11/1

Mainly interested in river line.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($231.10)
Hero ($304.90)
BB ($168.30)
UTG ($312.65)
MP ($232)
CO ($319.92)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, CO calls $2, 1 fold, Hero (poster) raises to $9, 1 fold, CO calls $8.

Flop: ($22) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $17, CO calls $17.

Turn: ($56) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $27, Hero calls $27.

River: ($110) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $55, CO calls $265.92 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $430.92

Habib Marwan · #2 07-28-2006, 05:10 PM

This line is so confusing, what the hell are you doing?

lawloser · #3 07-28-2006, 05:15 PM

If your checking calling the turn, I would follow the same line on the river. This all depends on your thought process in the hand. Was this a blocking bet or value bet? Either way, your bet seems very weak. Tough opponents will push with a busted flush draw here almost always. I just don't like your line. As played, I would fold to the all-in, but I would have doubts about whether I was just outplayed.

I think a better line (more aggresive) is CR-AI on the turn. What is your range for villan?

Alex1212 · #4 07-28-2006, 05:18 PM

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If your checking calling the turn, I would follow the same line on the river. This all depends on your thought process in the hand. Was this a blocking bet or value bet? Either way, your bet seems very weak. Tough opponents will push with a busted flush draw here almost always. I just don't like your line. As played, I would fold to the all-in, but I would have doubts about whether I was just outplayed.

I think a better line (more aggresive) is CR-AI on the turn. What is your range for villan?

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I definitely agree c/c river is better, but A crai turn is just folding out all the hands I beat (QJ, KJ, AT, pretty much all draws, etc.) and hes only calling with hands that beat me (JT, set, etc.)

Alex1212 · #5 07-28-2006, 05:15 PM

blocking bet.. I played this hand a while ago and after reviewing some hands came up with it and thought that his push really looked like a missed draw.

c/c river better?

Yads · #6 07-28-2006, 05:52 PM

This sucks what are you afraid of on the turn? And the river, what hands do you put him on that you're afraid of? JT, set of 3s? I would think both of those are raising this flop alomost always. Is this guy calling your raise with Q9? I don't think so. This hand was definitely a huge botch job. Bet the turn, check call river, your line just seems like a block bet or busted draw and is a pretty easy raise for a tough opponent.

jfish · #7 07-28-2006, 06:24 PM

bet turn. as played c/c riv.

lawloser · #8 07-28-2006, 07:58 PM

My only problem is that you bet really weak on the turn and river. On the river, if your going to bet 1/2 pot, why not check and call. I sometimes float a flop, then float the turn when faced with a weak bet and then push all rivers. I don't know if this was what villan did, but your line makes it perfect for such a play.

What can he have here that would slowplay a two flush draw board, with a straight draw as well. Two pairs/set raises the flop or the turn. This more read based than anything, but without reads I call this. I don't see what he has that beats you based on villan's line.

KingGordy · #9 07-28-2006, 08:01 PM

I would have bet the turn 2/3 to 3/4 pot. River is good.

Grunch · #10 07-28-2006, 11:46 PM

OK, I confess...

I'm confused about this post. This looks WA/WB to me, and in SSNL I think they would say that the way Hero played was "ultra standard".

Someone set me straight on this...