200bb deep with 1 pair vs. a giant donkey

[quarkncover]

MP is the reason I'm at the table, has shown a willingness to gamble and call large reraises preflop. He is quite bad.

Umm...standard?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($128.46)
CO ($130.55)
Button ($51.85)
Hero ($109)
BB ($50.23)
UTG ($33.67)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1.75, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $12.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $11.25, Button folds.

Flop: ($28.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $25</font>, MP calls $25.

Turn: ($78.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero calls $71 (All-In), MP calls $71.

River: ($220.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $220.25

[Keyser.]

Looks good to me.

[quarkncover]

FWIW this post is not results oriented at all, the turn push felt just wrong.

Are any worse hands calling turn shove?

[scorer]

Dangerous board. pairing of the nines is always not something we look for. Hard to know where your at with something like this board.

[Keyser.]

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Dangerous board. pairing of the nines is always not something we look for. Hard to know where your at with something like this board.

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The 9 is a good card. We beat QJ now.

Quark,
IMO, your line is fine because of your read that he is a donk. He may choose to call with a Q, J, FD or SD. If you check the turn he checks behind a lot, then you have a tough river decision because several cards would force you to check again (like the J that hit, for example), which loses a lot of value from hands like AQ that you beat.

[quarkncover]

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The 9 is a good card. We beat QJ now.

Quark,
IMO, your line is fine because of your read that he is a donk. He may choose to call with a Q, J, FD or SD. If you check the turn he checks behind a lot, then you have a tough river decision because several cards would force you to check again (like the J that hit, for example), which loses a lot of value from hands like AQ that you beat.

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Okay so he was a super donk, 80/23/1.67 I think my line is fairly standard vs. an opponent that might stack off with Top pair or a FD or SD.

How would your line change (same stack sizes, preflop raise) but vs. a 30/20/6 player?

C/F?

[terp]

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Dangerous board. pairing of the nines is always not something we look for. Hard to know where your at with something like this board.

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The 9 is a good card. We beat QJ now.

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[MsgrMartinez]

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FWIW this post is not results oriented at all, the turn push felt just wrong.

Are any worse hands calling turn shove?

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Depends on what you mean by "bad." Will he call there with a naked Q, a straight draw, or a flush draw? If so, then bet away. If your plan is to get it all in on the turn (which is obviously a good plan againt this villain), there's really no backing out once the turn hits, is there?

[RIDGE45]

If he is as bad as you say I think is definately calling with JQ..maybe QK, AK? I don't konw how bad he is...

Like others say, if he is willing to gamble here with pair, straight draw, flush draw, etc then fire away!!!

[younghov17]

v an 80 vpip looks fine

v a 30/20 hed probly raise flop and id fold there. if not id fold on turn to a godo sized bet