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Old 07-13-2006, 01:22 PM
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Default Tough spot with AA

1/2 NL FR, $200 effective stacks.

Villain is the tighest player in the game, and views me as the second tightest. Though he knows there's a small chance I could make a move here, he would not try to see where I'm at with a minreraise with QQ or AKs. This is one of those weird spots where I'm 90+% sure that he has AA/KK.

Hero is UTG with AdAc
Hero limps, 3 folds, MP2 raises to $6, 4 folds, BB calls, Hero reraises to $21, MP2 thinks for 5 seconds and reraises to $42, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop ($91) : Kd 8d 2d
Hero checks, MP2 bets $77, Hero?
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Old 07-13-2006, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AA

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Old 07-13-2006, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AA

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I'm 90+% sure that he has AA/KK.

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push preflop
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Old 07-13-2006, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AA

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I'm 90+% sure that he has AA/KK.

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push preflop

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No. He folds KK 100% of the time if I do that, no exageration.
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Old 07-13-2006, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AA

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I'm 90+% sure that he has AA/KK.

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push preflop

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No. He folds KK 100% of the time if I do that, no exageration.

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Then abuse him with non-AA hands?
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Old 07-13-2006, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AA

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I'm 90+% sure that he has AA/KK.

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push preflop

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No. He folds KK 100% of the time if I do that, no exageration.

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Then abuse him with non-AA hands?

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This is silly when his range is AA or KK.
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Old 07-13-2006, 01:54 PM
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This is silly when his range is AA or KK.

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This makes no sense. Either he's folding the hand to your push, or you need to start pushing him more. Figure out which it is and then do it. But posting a hand with a read like this is totally pointless. You have him on AA or KK, you're chopping or losing on that flop, this is the most obvious fold on the planet.

It's also the most obvious all in before the flop on the planet.

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Old 07-13-2006, 01:46 PM
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Would he even reraise with KK then after your limp reraise?
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Old 07-13-2006, 01:51 PM
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Would he even reraise with KK then after your limp reraise?

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Yes. Our history dictates that there is some chance that I'm making a move here so my hand is disguised somewhat. If he has KK, he's begging me to push so he can fold, just making sure I have aces. He's more likely to play it like this with AA, although just going by the cards he'll only have that 1/7 of the time.
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Old 07-13-2006, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AA

You made some valid points about not wanting to fold KK PF. But you put in 1/5 of your stack PF. I would say congrats if he hit his set after that. You still have 11 outs. If he has AA you have 9 outs to win it. I just dont see any way to fold it.
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