barf--AKo flops flush draw in reraised pot

[etizzle]

villain is 'swedenshero', tag and winning player, havent seen him get out of line all the often. I have been playing similarly, havent shown down much at this particular table.

Stacks are 2095.

villain raises to 60 in the CO, I make it 244 on the button with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], he calls

flop J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

villain checks, I bet 425, villain goes all in for $1400 more and change.

eh?

[IRV]

Villian is representing AA-JJ/possible Ad, clear fold imo.

[MDMA]

It's a fold.

[multious]

definite fold...

[Prevaricator]

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It's a fold.

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if it is a fold then why bet, no one is ever going to call that. they are going to shove on you or fold.

[Prevaricator]

to clarify, is it worth bet-folding with a hand like this when you could take the free card. isnt that better used with nothing?

i also think a lot of people will shove on you with a pocket pair with a diamond in it, but maybe not this villain. i think when this particular villain calls your reraise pf his range is pretty narrow and you should procede with caution.

[Josh.]

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to clarify, is it worth bet-folding with a hand like this when you could take the free card. isnt that better used with nothing?

i also think a lot of people will shove on you with a pocket pair with a diamond in it, but maybe not this villain. i think when this particular villain calls your reraise pf his range is pretty narrow and you should procede with caution.

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a large part of his range consists of pocket pairs with no diamond. also, i could see more of a reason to check back with the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] because with the K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], even if we check it and catch a diamond, our hand is not all that valuable

[etizzle]

do u think he is more or less likely to shove his JJ-AA if he has a diamond or if he doesn't?

[Hobbs.]

if he shoves all combos of JJ-AA then you should call because you have enough equity (poker stove).

*note I suck at NL, but seeing the first guys post saying villain is representing JJ-AA and thus it is a clear fold seems contradictory.

[MDMA]

Hobbs, you should DEFINATELY NOT call because of that, do you realize how many other hands BESIDES those few he is having in this spot? Come man, you're thinking of those hands, and those hands ALONE.

Etizzle: Depends very much on how often you would fire a second barrel (a push) on a blank turn, in a vacuum he would of course be much more likely to just call red AA and push black ones, but that would of course be very transparent and not very much in line w/ the rest of his hands/actions, and thus exploitable. I think he will often just shove both.