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Old 06-30-2006, 08:20 PM
LegendofLink LegendofLink is offline
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Default Wrap vs. AAA, should I gamble or fold?

still trying to learn the intricacies of this game, so excuse me if this is stupid...

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $4 BB (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button ($392)
SB ($427.60)
BB ($293)
UTG ($156)
UTG+1 ($240.50)
MP1 ($488.80)
Hero ($563.10)
MP3 ($152)
CO ($380.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, MP3 calls $8, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $38</font>, Hero calls $30, MP3 calls $30.

Flop: ($120) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

BET InstinKt, $117

Hero ??

Final Pot: $120

edit- i don't know why it's not showing up, but villain who reraised bets pot on flop

villain who reraised preflop has AA, no question in my mind, so should I look to gamble here, call and see the turn then fold if i don't hit, or just fold off the flop?

if he has less chips i get in from the flop, but this guy is pretty deep
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Old 06-30-2006, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: Wrap vs. AAA, should I gamble or fold?

I'd stick it in on the flop.

I'd also pot pf instead of minraising.
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Old 06-30-2006, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: Wrap vs. AAA, should I gamble or fold?

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Old 06-30-2006, 09:38 PM
LegendofLink LegendofLink is offline
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Default Re: Wrap vs. AAA, should I gamble or fold?

i'm not really worried about losing a buy in, but since he was almost as deep as me and since he obv had AA, i didn't know whether putting it all in with 13 outs was the best course. so far 2 for gamboling off the flop, more thoughts?
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Old 06-30-2006, 10:54 PM
Aisthesis Aisthesis is offline
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Default Re: Wrap vs. AAA, should I gamble or fold?

I prefer a call in this particular case rather than pushing. You can then get out if the board pairs. The suit of the turn card can also be relevant.

Here, it seems to me like your fold equity (assuming the logical AA) is clearly 0, so I don't really see the point in pushing. Also, this isn't one of those cases where you're actually ahead of top set, as you would be with more than 17 outs.

I don't particularly like the PF raise at all in MP, but it depends on how the game is playing, I suppose and does serve to put your opponent more clearly on AA.
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Old 07-01-2006, 03:51 AM
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Default Re: Wrap vs. AAA, should I gamble or fold?

I think you should just call but I'd like someone to try to convince me pushing is better. I would never fold.
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Old 07-01-2006, 04:10 AM
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Default Re: Wrap vs. AAA, should I gamble or fold?

I'd say just call. You aren't ahead of AAxx here, but have the odds to call two pot-sized bets. You have to worry about MP3; but I'd gamble and hope he has higher cards and gets out of the way.

If a club comes on the turn, I'd push because I would want to get paid when I hit with it, and you might not if you just call.

And the clubs are probably good. If you are correct on the aces, he'd have to have two clubs with one being higher than a nine out of two cards.

I like the pf raise. This is a premium hand and you want to raise the stakes.
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Old 07-02-2006, 05:24 AM
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Default Re: Wrap vs. AAA, should I gamble or fold?

Obviously you just call. Why shove now when if the board pairs, you're dead? Because I guarantee, if you hit the turn, he will not be folding. So you get the rest of the money in with a better chance of winning, or you get to keep the rest of the money, when you're stone dead.
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