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PHIL HELLMUTH |
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35 | 36.84% |
EUGENEEL |
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60 | 63.16% |
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#1
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<font color="blue">Hero is fairly new to the table and has no reads. Hero also hasn't done anything remarkable at the table yet.</font>
Full Tilt Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.50/$1 6 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $147.15 UTG+1: $68.20 CO: $124.60 Button: $37.50 SB: $96.20 Hero: $118.15 Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks. Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4, 4 players) SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG folds, CO calls, SB folds. Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($12, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $12</font>, CO calls. River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($36, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $111.15 (all-in)</font>.... |
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The answer is how often they have a set + 10%
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Definately less than 10% of the time on this board and with the action. I'd put him on a King-Jack or similar marginal King. If he's willing to get stacked with top pair, sweet.
Only way I see him calling without a set is if he has a King and he thinks you're going all in on a busted flush draw or something. |
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Either he has diamonds (obviously he never calls) or a marginal K (almost 100% not to call) or he slowplayed something and he's calling (extremely rare). I don't think this works 10% of the time, he has to "have a read" and go with it, which most just won't do.
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Given the action and the board it's hard to put villian on a second best hand good enough to call this. I think you lose the decent K's that'll call 25 almost all the time here.
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this brings up a point that I have noticed playing SSNL
sometimes, I just throw out the whole pot size and fractions. I will just push if the villian is capable of calling. Sure, they fold more often than not, but the ev of them potentially calling a push outweighs the routine 1/3 pot size value bet and call. Of course, this is heavily PLAYER DEPENDENT. oh yeah...i agree with the earlier poster who said only a set would call you here. I think 2 pair hands, which sometimes call, would be too smallish for typical villian to risk it. |
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at nl100 ive noticed that they think a push into a medium/small pot is usually a bluff so it gets called a bit more often. at 25 and 50 its usually for value though.
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If you aren't going to VB, I think a C/R all-in is better than open push. What hand is calling your open push that isn't value betting the river when checked to, and then calling your push? There are many hands that will be when checked to (missed draws) you can get value from.
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he showed no aggression the entire hand, what makes you think he calls here enough to make you more then a value bet would?
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If you aren't going to VB, I think a C/R all-in is better than open push. What hand is calling your open push that isn't value betting the river when checked to, and then calling your push? There are many hands that will be when checked to (missed draws) you can get value from. [/ QUOTE ] I like this now...good thought process |
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