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[MattS]

I have flopped the nut low together with the nut flush draw. But the turn card means no help. Now what should I do on the turn and river? In other words, will anybody not lose 1/2 of his stack in these situations?

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $16.07
UTG+1: $24.50
MP1: $8.15
MP2: $23.20
MP3: $74.63
CO: $3.90
Button: $12
SB: $7.87
Hero: $27.98

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1.5, 6 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.45</font>, 3 folds, MP3 calls, SB folds.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4.4, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4.2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 raises to $8.4</font>, Hero calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($21.2, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 bets $15</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $51.2
<font color="#666666">MP3 shows 3d Qs Ad Kc </font>
<font color="#666666">Hero shows Ac Js 5c 3s </font>

[Kuso]

i wouldn't sweat hands like this. not only that, i'd probably reraise the turn -- the money is going in anyway. i won't even mention the times that some donkey will make this turn raise with KKxx or AAxx with a janky low (in which case you're freerolling).

betting the river is not bad either in cases that villain has a high hand with a weak low -- you might get the whole pot.

fwiw, i recommend you run the twodimes numbers against a range of villain hands to see where you're at.

[morphball]

Tough hand, but at this level, I think I lead this hand the whole way, unless I knew this guy was good, which is not always easy to tell. You have a nut FD and a made nut low w/ protection, you're freerolling here him a lot more than you're getting quartered.

I would also keep a note on this guy, he is very aggressive, and he is either good or a donkey bettor. I mean that was a good read that his TPTK was good, if he made that read. It's a very plausible read too, considering that flop and turn combinded is not likely to have helped your high if you play tight.

[Fiasco]

1. I would play it the same way you did. I think this is just one of those situations.


2. You were only 37.5% on the turn, which surprised me, id figured youd be doing a bit better than that. Youre only 56.2% on the flop, and this surprised me too.

3. The two things you could have done differently are:
a. Just got it all in on the turn. While you would be putting your case chips in the pot with only 37.5% equity, it saves you from putting them in on the river, when you have only 25% equity.
b. Fired some kind of defensive bet at the river, something around $8-$10. I think villain would PROBABLY just call if you did this, fearing that you had made trip 7s to go with your low, but im not sure.

[MattS]

Thanks for your advice. Today I was dealt a similar hand but with converse outcome. That was a really nice scoop! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $9.99
UTG+1: $19.35
MP1: $24.10
MP2: $19.47
MP3: $15.56
CO: $60.32
Button: $9.82
Hero: $24.75
BB: $27.35

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
5 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $0.85</font>, Button folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1.95, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.9</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($5.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $22</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $16.5</font>.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($49.75, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $49.75)


Results:
Final pot: $49.75
<font color="#666666">CO shows Kd As Qh 2s </font>
<font color="#666666">Hero shows 4h Ac Qc 2h </font>