$55 - JJ on bubble

[oyvindgee]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG (t4220)
Button (t5708)
SB (t3802)
Hero (t6270)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t1800</font>, Button calls t1800, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font> Hero?

I had some reads that made this decision clearer, but I'd like to hear what you do without them.

[alvaroaze]

If UTG is not super-tight, i would push.

[faquewdikhed]

Those reads would be real nice. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

UTG is either looking for action or leaving himself an out by not shoving preflop. This is the most important part of the hand to me; figuring out what utg's purpose is. I am not as worried about button UTG seems fairly committed and if Button had a strong hand he would probably shove.


So my guess is that UTG has been fairly active, and button has a hand like KJ, KQ, AT. Button cold calls because he doesnt think he has any fold equity, and would like to hit a flop before committing. It could be a shove given that scenario, but in the heat of battle I would probably fold and let them battle it out.

[faquewdikhed]

Shovers,

What is your plan with TT/99 in this situation, and why?

[Eagles]

Shove with TT and 9 9 literally the only thing to be worried about is the button smooth calling aa and kk.

[faquewdikhed]

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Shove with TT and 9 9 literally the only thing to be worried about is the button smooth calling aa and kk.

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How about 55-88 then?

I'm guessing that you don't mind showing down vs. UTG, but would definitely rather button fold? I couldn't see button's coldcalling range being looser than KJ+?

I can see the upside to pushing though... I dunno. Perhaps some more discussion could smooth this out. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]


edit: or some smart math maybe?

edit edit: or it is a clear push and I'm a nimrod that needs to understand why.

[Kn0wClue]

i think that 55-88 are a fold and maybe even 99. if called opps are sure to have 2 overs or be dominating. jj atleast makes it less probable of opps to have overs and maybe a hand like a9 or a10 would call.

[blopp]

Fold. Let them fight. UTG is commited, and if you loose a coinflip to him you are crippled. Would button cold call with AA/KK/QQ here?

- B

[Eagles]

You are the big stack on the bubble and are thinking about folding JJ when you have some fe and huge overlay. Anything other than push is terrible.

[caretaker1]

Without a read, I'd push. Both stacks should be calling you with almost nothing.