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Old 12-30-2005, 03:17 PM
bziegler2 bziegler2 is offline
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Default I want to buy Hand History data

I'm working on a project that will model opponents for Texas Hold'em. To do this I need lots of Hand History files for different types of players (loose, tight, aggressive, passive, etc). And to create an accurate model, they can't be observed hands, I need to have the player hole cards for at least one player.

Ideally I will be able to get 30k-50k hands per *type* of player. I would be willing to pay for this information.

Does anyone know of a website where I could buy this? Would anyone be willing to sell me their data?

If privacy is a concern, I could write a small utility that would "anonymize" your Hand History files before you send them, so that your name & opponent names are changed to something different.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: I want to buy Hand History data

If you detail the project and share the information, I'm sure many of the posters would be willing to contribute for free.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: I want to buy Hand History data

I would certainly take any HH files people donate! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] And if someone says I can share their data, I will. But of course I would respect anyone's privacy wishes first.

As for more detail on the project, I'm not 100% sure how it will work. But the basic idea is that I would have a model for different playing styles. I would also write a program that could take a new players information (obviously just that seen at showdown), and see how closely it "fits" each of the different models. There might be some kind of scoring function, like 80% tight, 20% loose, etc.

If the classification piece works, stage 2 (which would be much harder), would use the opponent model you have picked for a player to try to guess what hole cards he has.

I would certainly be willing to share my results with anyone who contributes some useful HH information (i.e., >30k hands).
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: I want to buy Hand History data

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I would certainly take any HH files people donate! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] And if someone says I can share their data, I will. But of course I would respect anyone's privacy wishes first.

As for more detail on the project, I'm not 100% sure how it will work. But the basic idea is that I would have a model for different playing styles. I would also write a program that could take a new players information (obviously just that seen at showdown), and see how closely it "fits" each of the different models. There might be some kind of scoring function, like 80% tight, 20% loose, etc.

If the classification piece works, stage 2 (which would be much harder), would use the opponent model you have picked for a player to try to guess what hole cards he has.

I would certainly be willing to share my results with anyone who contributes some useful HH information (i.e., >30k hands).

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So in short, you're laying the groundwork for a piece of AI that can not only play on autopilot, but can also attempt to read hands? This sounds interesting.

I don't have much of a database, at most 100-200 hands per player, and it's all Absolute and Stars, but you're welcome to it. PM me if you're interested.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:39 PM
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So in short, you're laying the groundwork for a piece of AI that can not only play on autopilot, but can also attempt to read hands?

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No, its not meant to play for you, but it would be a tool to help you figure out your opponents. Sort of like PAHUD displaying their stats on the table. This would say "30% chance he has a pair, 20% chance top pair", etc. And hopefully it would be real-time so it would be useful.
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Old 12-30-2005, 04:39 PM
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This certainly would qualify as a bot, but it is interesting nonetheless.
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Old 01-01-2006, 02:50 AM
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How much $ are you willing to pay for such data?
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Old 01-01-2006, 10:57 AM
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Default Re: I want to buy Hand History data

For 25k+ hands I can give you a free lifetime license to PokerManager (www.pokermgr.com).
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