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Old 05-28-2006, 11:31 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Stars 2/4 - J9s that didn\'t go as planned

Here are some stats for you, even though they aren't very meaningful:

UTG+1: 36/9/1 after 22 hands
CO: 17/5/1 after 41 hands

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero...
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Old 05-28-2006, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: Stars 2/4 - J9s that didn\'t go as planned

Bet/fold here. Can't give free cards to 1 spade, and if someone's got you beat they'll let you know with a raise.
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Old 05-28-2006, 11:37 PM
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Default Re: Stars 2/4 - J9s that didn\'t go as planned

I think I like checking and saving our money. We're very likely toast here. I could see putting in another bet depending on the action, but I don't want to have to put in one by default.
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Old 05-28-2006, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: Stars 2/4 - J9s that didn\'t go as planned

Ya, we really can't bet this. It's a check reevaluate in my opinion.

If we do spend another bet, it should probably be to try to improve.
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Old 05-29-2006, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: Stars 2/4 - J9s that didn\'t go as planned

I'm with Wookie here. I don't like getting coldcalled and I don't like the flush card. I expect to be screwed enough times by a weak ten or a flush, but...

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks.

River: (6.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero ...
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Old 05-29-2006, 02:01 AM
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Default Re: Stars 2/4 - J9s that didn\'t go as planned

I think we check again, probably calling one, but maybe not overcalling. If we bet out, we're probably in trouble, but weaker hands might bet if we check.
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Old 05-29-2006, 05:50 AM
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Default Re: Stars 2/4 - J9s that didn\'t go as planned

bet/folds
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Old 05-29-2006, 05:54 AM
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Default Re: Stars 2/4 - J9s that didn\'t go as planned

check/folds
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Old 05-29-2006, 09:01 AM
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Default Re: Stars 2/4 - J9s that didn\'t go as planned

UTG+1 could have made his flush and was going for a c/r on the turn. Otherwise, I'd have to assume he's got AT/KT (after calling the flop raise) or was calling the flop raise with an OESD.

CO's hand could be an overpair or simply two high cards (QQ+, AJ+, KQ). I think overcards are more likely than an overpair.

Overall, I see the chance of being ahead greatly reduced.

It's a check/fold for timid little me.
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Old 05-29-2006, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: Stars 2/4 - J9s that didn\'t go as planned

I just bet/fold the turn.
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