For BCPVP: Why Right-Wingers Are a Clear and Present Danger

[ElliotR]

From the incomparable Glenn Greenwald. Link.


...if there is any defining American principle, it is that the President can't throw U.S. citizens in jail without charges and a trial. Since the 13th Century Magna Carta, not even the British King could do that. But there are virtually no American political principles left which are not being called into question, if not overtly attacked, by Bush followers. Prohibitions on torture, the right to a jury trial, the obligation of the President to obey the law, the right of the press to publish stories without criminal prosecution -- all of the values which have distinguished this country and defined who we are as a nation for the last two centuries are all being debated and assaulted.

What do you do with people who never learned that American citizens can't be imprisoned by Executive decree and without a trial, or that American journalists aren't imprisoned for stories they write about the Government's conduct? People like this plainly do not embrace, or comprehend, even the most basic principles of what America is.


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Indeed.

[Borodog]

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What do you do with people who never learned that American citizens can't be imprisoned by Executive decree and without a trial, or that American journalists aren't imprisoned for stories they write about the Government's conduct?

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You apparently turn them into Zeus-like Gods:

[Peter666]

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What do you do with people who never learned that American citizens can't be imprisoned by Executive decree and without a trial, or that American journalists aren't imprisoned for stories they write about the Government's conduct?

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You apparently turn them into Zeus-like Gods:



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Not to mention Constitution defying dictators....

And just for kicks, what is the author's stance on the second Amendment? You know, the one that apparently doesn't count under FDR or Clinton (plus others).

[Zeno]

"You apparently turn them into Zeus-like Gods"

You forget to add John Adams, Woodrow Wilson, and FDR.
(And more than likely at least 10-20 other presidents)

-Zeno

[Borodog]

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"You apparently turn them into Zeus-like Gods"

You forget to add John Adams, Woodrow Wilson, and FDR.
(And more than likely at least 10-20 other presidents)

-Zeno

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Brevity is the sole of wit.

But if you would like to include other tyrannical dictators such as Wilson and FDR, be my guest. I'm not too familiar with Adams, but I'll take your word that he was a douchebag as well.

[Copernicus]

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"You apparently turn them into Zeus-like Gods"

You forget to add John Adams, Woodrow Wilson, and FDR.
(And more than likely at least 10-20 other presidents)

-Zeno

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Brevity is the sole of wit.

But if you would like to include other tyrannical dictators such as Wilson and FDR, be my guest. I'm not too familiar with Adams, but I'll take your word that he was a douchebag as well.

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Take a jump in the PeeDee and float on down to South Carolina. The South shall rise again!

[Borodog]

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"You apparently turn them into Zeus-like Gods"

You forget to add John Adams, Woodrow Wilson, and FDR.
(And more than likely at least 10-20 other presidents)

-Zeno

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Brevity is the sole of wit.

But if you would like to include other tyrannical dictators such as Wilson and FDR, be my guest. I'm not too familiar with Adams, but I'll take your word that he was a douchebag as well.

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Take a jump in the PeeDee and float on down to South Carolina. The South shall rise again!

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No, it won't.

[Zeno]

John Adams - quick and dirty link: Alien and Sedition Acts

The 'impending war' was going to be with France. It never happened. Just the XYZ affair.

[Copernicus]

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From the incomparable Glenn Greenwald. Link.


...if there is any defining American principle, it is that the President can't throw U.S. citizens in jail without charges and a trial. Since the 13th Century Magna Carta, not even the British King could do that. But there are virtually no American political principles left which are not being called into question, if not overtly attacked, by Bush followers. Prohibitions on torture, the right to a jury trial, the obligation of the President to obey the law, the right of the press to publish stories without criminal prosecution -- all of the values which have distinguished this country and defined who we are as a nation for the last two centuries are all being debated and assaulted.

What do you do with people who never learned that American citizens can't be imprisoned by Executive decree and without a trial, or that American journalists aren't imprisoned for stories they write about the Government's conduct? People like this plainly do not embrace, or comprehend, even the most basic principles of what America is.


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Indeed.

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Who and when? blah blah blah

[DVaut1]

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Who and when? blah blah blah

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At least read the link before doing a tl;dr.