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Old 05-24-2006, 05:13 AM
VincentVega VincentVega is offline
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9 handed...I view vilian as tight aggressive who doesnt get out of line and is decent at hand reading.

2 limpers to me in sb with 93 clubs i call villian checks.
Flop is 9-7-3 with 2 spades. I lead for 110. villian makes it 320. Both limpers fold
My action?
And why..
Effective stacks are 4200 for me and 3600 for villian
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Old 05-24-2006, 06:17 AM
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it really depends on if he ever limps with decent holdings. to me it really seams like he puts you on a flush draw and wants you out. he might have tens or a middle pocket, chance of 77 is out there of course. 99 and 33 would be really awful but a slim chance. If he is a player that can limp with jj+ i would push to 1500, if he is the sort of player that wouldnt do that i would make it 500 see what happens. re-raise allin, i gota fold, turn a spade i gota put in another big bet...anyway thats all i got. hopefully some people can reply with more then "fold preflop", sometimes its worth takeing chances, you cant play perfect abc hours on end and expect to make money live. Or maybe i splash around too much...
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Old 05-24-2006, 07:48 AM
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I rarely see any reason to 3-bet with 100BB effective stacks on the flop action. In this case that goes too I think. Call and check the turn.
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Old 05-24-2006, 08:42 AM
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you realize i was in the small blind and he was in the big blind right? i dont normally play 93.....
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Old 05-24-2006, 08:53 AM
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Yes, I realize that. However dont see how thats gonna make a difference.
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Old 05-24-2006, 09:15 AM
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Be careful not to lose all your chips in an unraised pot.
--Doyle Brunson
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Old 05-24-2006, 09:17 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
Be careful not to lose all your chips in an unraised pot.
--Doyle Brunson

[/ QUOTE ]
LOL
--Flawless_Victory
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Old 05-24-2006, 09:42 AM
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He's the BB and saw a free flop ... he could have literally anything here ... top pair, TT/JJ (wanting to see a "safe" flop"), spade draw, straight draw ...

I would call the flop raise and lead the turn ... regardless of the card. Probably lead for 1/2-2/3 pot. You're ahead of a WIDE range of hands here, and really only hate 77 and 97. He could be putting you on spades and trying to take the pot, he could have a straight draw and using position. Most likely I think he has a good 9 and wanted to get it heads up.

I really don't like checking the turn and giving him control of the hand.

Just curious what you ended up doing.

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Old 05-24-2006, 05:58 PM
VincentVega VincentVega is offline
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headhunter...uhhh..nobody checks in the big blind with 10s or jacks in this game. So you can rule that out. I doubt he would raise with a flush draw seeing as there are two people behind him and he either A. wouldnt want to get blown off the hand in case one of them flopped a set. B. If he had a big flush draw, he would want more players in improving his odds and possibly giving himself a chance of breaking a lower flush draw. So you can rule that out. When he raised me I put him on exactly a big 9, 9-7-...pocket 7s..pocket 3s..9-3 or 7-3. Im in good shape against a couple of those and way behind against other. I dont mention pocket 9s because I feel pretty strongly this player would raise with 9s preflop.
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Old 05-24-2006, 07:11 PM
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VV -- uhhhhh ... yeeeeaaaahhhh.... not sure what I was thinking. You're right. Bad analysis on my end.
(Chalk it up to bad day at the office?? ... not sure)
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