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Old 05-23-2006, 04:20 AM
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Default hand vs nate 30 short wynn

We are currently playing 4 handed. I have opened the SB every time it has been folded to me in the SB. I have red sevens and open, and nate 3 bets for the first time. I decided to just call.

Flop comes A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

what lines should I consider?
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Old 05-23-2006, 04:40 AM
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Default Re: hand vs nate 30 short wynn

c/c b/c c/r.

c/ring this flop is probably better since there are a tonne of draws, checking this river is also probably quite bad, but I guess works for all A-x which is probably the majority of his range.

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Old 05-23-2006, 04:41 AM
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Default Re: hand vs nate 30 short wynn

Checkraise the flop is the clear choice in my opinion.
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Old 05-23-2006, 04:42 AM
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Default Re: hand vs nate 30 short wynn

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Checkraise the flop is the clear choice in my opinion.

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yeh I thought this as soon as I posted, so many draws he can't give you credit for a hand.

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Old 05-23-2006, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: hand vs nate 30 short wynn

I think CRing the flop is a total action killer if Nate doesn't have an ace. And if he does, we want to get a chance to put in 3-bet on the turn. c-call, bet-raise...

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Old 05-23-2006, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: hand vs nate 30 short wynn

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I think CRing the flop is a total action killer if Nate doesn't have an ace. And if he does, we want to get a chance to put in 3-bet on the turn. c-call, bet-raise...

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Check/raising the flop makes this all more likely, I think. You're not getting in 3-bets on any street if he doesn't have an Ace.
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Old 05-24-2006, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: hand vs nate 30 short wynn

Nobody has suggested a flop donk/call/donk or donk/threebet. Are these options just causing Nate to fold the flop correctly most of the time?
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Old 05-24-2006, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: hand vs nate 30 short wynn

basically these neat tricky lines people are proposing simply let him get away from an ace or any other made hand almost all the time. checkraise flop and don't let your foot off the gas.
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Old 05-23-2006, 04:42 AM
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Default Re: hand vs nate 30 short wynn

I've never actually played against nate-

I think its best to go straightforward against him, tricky lines like sudden donk bets on the turn so you can three bet will either have him freezing up and deciding to see showdown, or folding to the three bet. I would say check call the flop and then c/r the turn and bet river, its a good line because, well, its a good line.
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Old 05-23-2006, 06:02 AM
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Default Re: hand vs nate 30 short wynn

c/r flop is the easy winner.
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