99, 2nd pair, mono flop, a c/r

gaming_mouse · #1 05-23-2006, 02:18 AM

48/14/.9 over 50 hands

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (4 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises.... uh oh.

Gildwulf · #2 05-23-2006, 02:27 AM

Tough situation.

I'd call and hope for a spade or a 9.

I'd also call the turn with the intent of check-folding a non-spade non-9 river. You're getting 6.5-1 on the turn; even if we count your spades as half outs (reverse implied odds) it's worth a call. 4.5 spade outs+2 9s=6.5 outs which gives you decent odds to call. You're going to have to c-call or bet/call a spade river though.

ArturiusX · #3 05-23-2006, 02:43 AM

Just fold this small peddly flop.

The Bryce · #4 05-23-2006, 03:06 AM

Quickly, to showdown!

Entity · #5 05-23-2006, 11:23 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Quickly, to showdown!

[/ QUOTE ]

Scotty. · #6 05-23-2006, 01:19 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Quickly, to showdown!

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]

Agree with this. I don't understand how anyone can possibly advocate folding or raising anywhere. The flop C/R could be anything - a 6, 7, big spade, bluff, J, J with a spade, whatever. I would guess we are ahead probably a little more often than not, but raising anywhere just allows our opponent to really punish us when we are not or get away from his bad holdings.

New001 · #7 05-23-2006, 03:08 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Just fold this small peddly flop.

[/ QUOTE ]
[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
Hero has a flush draw, did you miss that? The pot is 7.5 SB now, I can't imagine folding here.

gaming_mouse · #8 05-23-2006, 11:09 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Just fold this small peddly flop.

[/ QUOTE ]
[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
Hero has a flush draw, did you miss that? The pot is 7.5 SB now, I can't imagine folding here.

[/ QUOTE ]

there's a good chance that it's no good [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Gildwulf · #9 05-23-2006, 11:13 AM

Even counting flush draw as good 50% of the time you are still getting odds to call

BigEndian · #10 05-23-2006, 04:20 PM

I think if you fold situations like this, you're opening yourself up to getting run over. This hand should be going to showdown routinely.

- Jim