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AK (aka I never fold)
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP calls. Flop: (6.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (5.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (7.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 13.25 BB |
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Re: AK (aka I never fold)
Against normal opponents, I would bet the river, but If we have a read that this guy is retarded, I can see going for the checkraise.
I play this hand the same except I usually bet the river, but If I did checkraise, I am folding to a 3bet never against an unknown. But the thing is I would never checkraise this river against an unknown, I would only checkraise this river against the type of opponent where calling a 3bet is super easy. |
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Re: AK (aka I never fold)
This is an automatic river donk, and unless you're not telling us something important it's also the easiest river muck ever when he 3 bets.
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Re: AK (aka I never fold)
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This is an automatic river donk, and unless you're not telling us something important it's also the easiest river muck ever when he 3 bets. [/ QUOTE ] Against an unknown, this is an automatic river donk, against most player types this is an automatic river donk. But there are a small percentage of clueless aggressive retards where I would checkraise this river and expect to be called or 3bet by a worse hand. |
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Re: AK (aka I never fold)
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This is an automatic river donk, and unless you're not telling us something important it's also the easiest river muck ever when he 3 bets. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think the muck is at all easy. In fact I think it's a call as played. I'll pay to see his ochos. |
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Re: AK (aka I never fold)
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This is an automatic river donk, [/ QUOTE ] If we are donking this river because we think we just outdrew him, then why are we calling down? And if we are calling down because we think there is a good enough chance he is bluffing, then why are we donking this river? |
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Re: AK (aka I never fold)
I guess I'm just used to playing against opponents who aren't blind. I'd be pretty impressed with the state of Party Poker if it was "correct" to pay that off.
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Re: AK (aka I never fold)
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I guess I'm just used to playing against opponents who aren't blind. I'd be pretty impressed with the state of Party Poker if it was "correct" to pay that off. [/ QUOTE ] Im not refering to calling the 3 bet |
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Re: AK (aka I never fold)
if it's bluffy opponent, we're calling down because of the combined chance that he is bluffing and that we will outdraw. we shouldn't be calling down if we think our ace is counterfeited and we shouldn't get fancy on the river if we think our ace is counterfeited.
against an unknown opponent, I call down and then it's maybe 50-50 for me between donking the river or just check-calling. If he is a decent player, he's going to check-behind with a hand like a medium pocket pair and probably fold to a bet...if he's a bad player, he's going to bet and fold to a raise so you still only win 1 bet, unless of course he has you beat and then you lose more than 1 bet |
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Re: AK (aka I never fold)
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Against normal opponents, I would bet the river, but If we have a read that this guy is retarded, I can see going for the checkraise. I play this hand the same except I usually bet the river, but If I did checkraise, I am folding to a 3bet never against an unknown. But the thing is I would never checkraise this river against an unknown, I would only checkraise this river against the type of opponent where calling a 3bet is super easy. [/ QUOTE ] good post |
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