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AA ...How to defend them 5 way
Villian is 45 vpip 3 pfr and 1.45 aggression over 300 hands. He just became my friend today. I am at a loss as to play this hand any thoughts would be helpful and appreciated.
Party Poker ($10/$20 limit). Hand converted by Check Raised hand converter Preflop (6 players): Hero is SB with UTG calls [3.4:1]. MP calls [4.4:1]. CO checks. 1 fold. HERO 3 bets. BB calls [7:1]. UTG calls [8:1]. MP calls [9:1]. CO calls [10:1]. Flop (10 small bets in pot, 5 players): HERO bets. BB 2 bets. UTG calls [7.5:1]. MP calls [8.5:1]. CO calls [9.5:1]. HERO calls [20:1]. Turn (10 bets in pot, 5 players): HERO bets. BB calls [12:1]. UTG calls [13:1]. MP calls [14:1]. CO calls [15:1]. River (15 bets in pot, 5 players): HERO bets. BB folds [16:1]. UTG calls [17:1]. MP folds [17:1]. CO folds [17:1]. Summary: UTG has Two pair, Fives and Deuces [ ] and won (16.7bb) <u>HERO has a pair of Aces [ ]</u> |
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Re: AA ...How to defend them 5 way
BBV!
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Re: AA ...How to defend them 5 way
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BBV! [/ QUOTE ] What do you mean? |
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Re: AA ...How to defend them 5 way
This is what he means.
Against that sort of play, there's no answer to 'how could I have won this hand.' Betting aces isn't rocket science, especially on a board this nonthreatening. Moreover, the play of the hand postflop resembles a LP full ring table more than shorthanded, which makes it even more straight forward. So... BBV |
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Re: AA ...How to defend them 5 way
omg, 3bet the flop.
The pot is huge and all the players are going to draw to the river to make their hand regardless, so this isn't the time to worry about manipulating their turn pot odds imo. |
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Re: AA ...How to defend them 5 way
I don't mean any offense, but if you are serious with this post, I would recommend moving down in stakes. Based on reading this post alone, I believe you will get killed at 10/20.
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Re: AA ...How to defend them 5 way
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I don't mean any offense, but if you are serious with this post, I would recommend moving down in stakes. Based on reading this post alone, I believe you will get killed at 10/20. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure I understand this. I would have 3-bet the flop, but I don't see why the way he played it makes him a fish. Can you (or anyone else for that matter) elaborate? Thanks, Cartman |
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Re: AA ...How to defend them 5 way
I'd 3-bet the flop too. And then mostly bet the turn. But on scary cards often ch/waitandsee.
I think they are implying that it is obvious that he couldn't protect his hand and if he can't see that,,, well then he can't see some obvious stuff. If he sits in games like this ones then I'm sure he can beat them. Was this on Party? |
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Re: AA ...How to defend them 5 way
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[ QUOTE ] I don't mean any offense, but if you are serious with this post, I would recommend moving down in stakes. Based on reading this post alone, I believe you will get killed at 10/20. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure I understand this. I would have 3-bet the flop, but I don't see why the way he played it makes him a fish. Can you (or anyone else for that matter) elaborate? Thanks, Cartman [/ QUOTE ] I think he's referring to how the original post/question was worded rather than how the hand was played. It's pretty obvious that these aces couldn't have been "protected" here. |
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Re: AA ...How to defend them 5 way
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't mean any offense, but if you are serious with this post, I would recommend moving down in stakes. Based on reading this post alone, I believe you will get killed at 10/20. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure I understand this. I would have 3-bet the flop, but I don't see why the way he played it makes him a fish. Can you (or anyone else for that matter) elaborate? Thanks, Cartman [/ QUOTE ] I think he's referring to how the original post/question was worded rather than how the hand was played. It's pretty obvious that these aces couldn't have been "protected" here. [/ QUOTE ] I can see how me phrasing the hand seemed a tad remedial for you champions, I should have stated I can see no way of protecting my hand, but rather would like input on how to play this hand from more respected posters. I usually wouldnt put a silly hand like this out, but I am trying to decide when to spew and when not on these tricky situations, meaning I obviously dont have all the posters skill or knowledge here, I am just seeking some insight. |
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