Calling FOR MY STACK with middle pair vs a complete maniac, standard?

[Go_Blue88]

Edit-- An attempt to make a catchier title.

Villian is Maniac McManiac. He pushes everything from top pair, to draws, to nothing. I've stacked him once already with a set and I feel like he's tilting here. Standard?

5 handed Hero has 1108, Villian has a lil over 400 I think.

Fold, Hero raises UTG+1 to 20 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Cstation huge stack calls, VIllian calls in the sb, bb folds.

Flop-- 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Villian checks, Hero bets 50, big stack folds, Villian calls.
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Turn-- 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Villian bets 107.24, Hero calls.

River-- 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Villian pushes for 253.10, Hero calls.

Good stuff?

[technologic]

standard. just a quick question tho, villain seems to have 430ish if he pushes for 253.10 at the end.

just to clarify, is this 2/4 or 3/6?

[Go_Blue88]

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standard. just a quick question tho, villain seems to have 430ish if he pushes for 253.10 at the end.

just to clarify, is this 2/4 or 3/6?

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Ya it's 3/6. Sry about that, I suppose the title is pretty misleading.

[frozzor]

i think this is pretty bad
especially if he instabets turn

[Sciolist]

These situations are 95% down to reads on the situation. If you feel he's tilting, do it. At worst, you'll lose and your future reads will be better.

I'd be more tempted to reraise him at some point, I really don't like calling on two streets on this hand.

[TreyOfLight]

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I'd be more tempted to reraise him at some point, I really don't like calling on two streets on this hand.

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Agree, and I think the turn is a good spot.

A lot of people make the mistake of equating a "random hand" and "nothing"; in reality the random hand is rarely drawing dead on the turn.

Board: 3d 8h Td 7h
equity (%)
68 % { As8s }
32 % { random }

[wwright7]

I like the way the hero played this hand against a maniac villian. Lets use the percentages that Trey posted. Assume the hero will call the villian's AI bet on the river no matter what card comes off. The hero wins 400+ about 2/3 of the time while the villian sucks out and wins 400+ about 1/3 of the time. Here, the hero is definately getting the best of it. Now, assume that the hero taps on the turn. Anytime the villain has nothing, he will fold, netting the hero a profit of about $200 with no risk of losing to a suck out. Sometimes the villian has a hand that is ahead of the hero, and he will call. Lets say that the hero will lose $400 2/3 of the time when this happens.

I guess my question is, do we really want to chase out the villian with a raise on the turn when we have the best of it, or are we better off calling and hope he bluffs off the rest of his stack on the river?

[ArtVandelay]

there are way too many river cards that ruin your hand; you must raise or fold on the turn

I would fold, although I wasn't there; if you really, really think this donk is just tilt, then a shove could be pretty profitable

[john kane]

trey, what program did you use to calculate that?

interesting to know.

[TreyOfLight]

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