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Old 05-02-2006, 07:24 PM
TommyChong TommyChong is offline
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Default AQ makes 2 pair and then gets checkraised

Villian is 44/8/1.17 after 260 hands. Only note I have on him is that he donked the flop with top pair once.

The preflop raiser was fairly rockish, though over a short sample. I figured if he raised the flop donk I would get out.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, BB calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (13.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.75 BB
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:29 PM
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Default Re: AQ makes 2 pair and then gets checkraised

What is your definition of a donk bet? I'm not sure how you donk bet with tp pair.

Sure looks like BB was slow playing a set or hit the wheel on this. Not sure about the 3-bet on the turn, but I definately hate getting capped here. I probably call down from the turn c/r.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: AQ makes 2 pair and then gets checkraised

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What is your definition of a donk bet? I'm not sure how you donk bet with tp pair.

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I bet before the last PF aggressor acted. Thus a donk bet. Donk bet doesn't necessarilly mean a stupid bet, though they usually are.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: AQ makes 2 pair and then gets checkraised

There's no donking on the flop.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: AQ makes 2 pair and then gets checkraised

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There's no donking on the flop.

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Why?
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: AQ makes 2 pair and then gets checkraised

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There's no donking on the flop.

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Why?

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I think he missed that the donk top pair was in a previous hand. Unless you're talking about your donk.... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: AQ makes 2 pair and then gets checkraised

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There's no donking on the flop.

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Why?

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That term doesn't apply to the flop.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: AQ makes 2 pair and then gets checkraised

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What is your definition of a donk bet? I'm not sure how you donk bet with tp pair.

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I bet before the last PF aggressor acted. Thus a donk bet. Donk bet doesn't necessarilly mean a stupid bet, though they usually are.

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Ah, I use donk bet to mean someone took a shot on a scare card.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: AQ makes 2 pair and then gets checkraised

QQ makes sense for BB, as well as AK (which gives him TPTK on the turn explaining his aggression, although capping is still suspicious), and the latter has simply much larger probability of happening
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: AQ makes 2 pair and then gets checkraised

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QQ makes sense for BB, as well as AK (which gives him TPTK on the turn explaining his aggression, although capping is still suspicious), and the latter has simply much larger probability of happening

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BB called preflop. neither of these hands belong in his range.

to everyone else,
i have no idea wtf is going on with this "donk bet" issue. tc donked the flop, yes, even with top pair. and clearly there IS donking on the flop. all you have to do is press the bet button.

anyway, actual content: the turn is close because in order to 3-bet you have to be able to put him on hands that you beat and that take this action. A2 and A3 you beat. AQ you split with. i dont think this player would play Q3 or Q2 here. but 54s, most likely. 22 and 33? for sure. so you really only beat a couple aces up hands and you lose or split with everything else. its probably pretty close but calling down seems best.
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