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Lost vs Redargoe
Ok, so i was very lost in this turn spot. relevant history is ive been 3betting red an incredible amnt basically just cause ive been getting strong cards every time he opens. hes been playing back quite a bit. i also have been double barreling a lot of turns in uncoordinated spots like Q84 r where he check/calls OOP or on paired boards like this (though this one is a little more dangerous than most). I also checked top pair on the turn once today and picked up a river bet from his mid pair fwiw. what to do? And if i do call (or shove) whats my line on a few rivers...
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Hero ($2971) CO ($1328.90) Button ($1970) SB ($3111) BB ($6609) UTG ($2000) Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $70</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $50. Flop: ($150) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $120</font>, BB calls $120. Turn: ($390) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $300</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $767</font>, |
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Re: Lost vs Redargoe
Ok, so I decided to call the turn. I don't often see red making big bluffs, and I was kind of thinking he might be making a free sd play with say ATs, JTs etc. what now?
Hero calls $467. River: ($1924) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $5652 (All-In)</font> |
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Re: Lost vs Redargoe
[ QUOTE ]
Ok, so I decided to call the turn. I don't often see red making big bluffs, and I was kind of thinking he might be making a free sd play with say ATs, JTs etc. what now? Hero calls $467. River: ($1924) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $5652 (All-In)</font> [/ QUOTE ] interesting now I kind of want to call |
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Re: Lost vs Redargoe
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Ok, so I decided to call the turn. I don't often see red making big bluffs, and I was kind of thinking he might be making a free sd play with say ATs, JTs etc. what now? Hero calls $467. River: ($1924) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $5652 (All-In)</font> [/ QUOTE ] interesting now I kind of want to call [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Lost vs Redargoe
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and I was kind of thinking he might be making a free sd play with say ATs, JTs etc. what now? [/ QUOTE ] its tough to make a free sd play when you're OOP. |
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Re: Lost vs Redargoe
I hate betting this turn with this hand even with your history, and given that you did here I'd probably just fold.
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Re: Lost vs Redargoe
I don't hate a turn check here in general, and especially if you feel like he is due to play back at you.
I guess you can call and fold to river bets. I assume you would often play a boat like that so he shouldn't be able to automatically put you on a hand like this. I don't hate a turn fold either. |
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Re: Lost vs Redargoe
to those saying turn check, from playing with redargoe i dont think hes particularly apt to turn made hands into bluffs (or semibluff c/r weakish draws on turn). I think we miss some value with a turn check in this spot vs his range. though its close for sure. i guess just because "oh [censored] he checkraised" the answer to this hand shouldn't neccesarily be "duh, dont bet turn".
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Re: Lost vs Redargoe
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to those saying turn check, from playing with redargoe i dont think hes particularly apt to turn made hands into bluffs (or semibluff c/r weakish draws on turn). I think we miss some value with a turn check in this spot vs his range. though its close for sure. i guess just because "oh [censored] he checkraised" the answer to this hand shouldn't neccesarily be "duh, dont bet turn". [/ QUOTE ] I don't see you getting 3 streets of value here, so I'd rather just call/bet river. |
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Re: Lost vs Redargoe
check the turn
now that you bet it, fold if you wanna peel to the two outer, go for it, but fold river |
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