3/6 stud/8 - 5th st trainwreck

[RubbishCards]

Both opponents are unknown to me.

7 Card Stud High-Low ($3/$6), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.58 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 4: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (3.58 SB)

Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 4: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls

5th Street - (3.29 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___
Seat 4: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___vomits

[HOWMANY]

ugh [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Call I guess. This spot sucks, but the one nice thing is there's a dead Ace, so the guy with the Aces may have just reflex bet his hand without looking at the boards or he looked and didn't care.

[Andy B]

Take a step back before you do anything. Was this guy betting (63)AJ into your board on fourth? I'm guessing no. He probably doesn't have a big pair. It's quite likely that he has three Aces. It's overwhelmingly likely that the raiser has a flush. You're probably playing for the whole pot, but you're bucking too much here. You have to hope that you fill, the bettor doesn't, and the raiser doesn't back into some ragged low. The pot's too small to justify playing on.

[Bremen]

[ QUOTE ]
Take a step back before you do anything. Was this guy betting (63)AJ into your board on fourth?

[/ QUOTE ] Given hero was the BI it seems likely enough.

[jambony]

Fold third. Now that you got to fifth, fold.

[Andy B]

Hero also called the completion, so the other guy shouldn't assume he has garbage.

[HOWMANY]

nevermind

[2461Badugi]

[ QUOTE ]
Was this guy betting (63)AJ into your board on fourth?

[/ QUOTE ]

He's certainly betting a four-flush, which looks more likely to me than three aces.

[*TT*]

[ QUOTE ]
Take a step back before you do anything. Was this guy betting (63)AJ into your board on fourth? I'm guessing no. He probably doesn't have a big pair. It's quite likely that he has three Aces. It's overwhelmingly likely that the raiser has a flush. You're probably playing for the whole pot, but you're bucking too much here. You have to hope that you fill, the bettor doesn't, and the raiser doesn't back into some ragged low. The pot's too small to justify playing on.

[/ QUOTE ]

Although its possible, its also unlikely that the villains have a flush (a 4 flush looking for a free card is more likely) or a set of Aces (2 pair is fair more likely since we see the dead A). I call and play on, knowing that I will win around 1/4 of the time but the pot allows me to stay in. Unless one of the villains doesn't have eyes or is a total lag I don't expect too much action on later streets, with the hero staying in its rather obvious he has a set.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

[Bremen]

Getting back to the hand. I'd think 3rd would be a fold. You are drawing poorly again two better lows and a pair of 4's isn't real great for high.

5th is a definite fold imho. ugh