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KKK on 4-flush board
Bodog 5/10
No reads other than a decided willingness for cold calling pre-flop by multiple players. UTG+1 raises MP1 calls MP2 (hero) 3-bets K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Folds to SB and BB, both call, all call 5 way 3 bets Flop 10 hi [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG+1 bets, call, hero raises, all call except SB 2 bets 4 ways (23 SB total) Turn K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Checks around (comment?) River: Brick UTG+1 bets, MP1 calls, Hero folds, SB folds (13BB) (comment?) |
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Re: KKK on 4-flush board
You should bet the turn. Maybe your hand is good. Maybe somebody folds a small club. Even if you get raised that isn't that bad because you have a strong draw.
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Re: KKK on 4-flush board
When I'm holding a set on the turn, I am betting 100% of the time when it's checked to me. 150% if I can figure out how.
As played, I hate to make the river fold but it's a good one. |
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Re: KKK on 4-flush board
Definitely bet the turn. If called you can obviously check the river through UI.
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Re: KKK on 4-flush board
Do we overcall on river if donked/called even if we bet on turn?
What if there is a c/r on turn the a lead out. Call? Overcall? What if overcall does not close action? Concur on weak turn play. Shouldnt have cared if there was a trapper given 10 out re-draw. Losing value and fold equity (maybe low club or str8 draw dumps) |
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Re: KKK on 4-flush board
I would also bet the trun but as played I would raise the river. The club out there is either the nuts or very small so I would hope the small club folds to my raise and I beat the other guys two pair or pocket.
If there is a check raise on the turn I would say three bet and the little club should think he is beat. This may buy a free showdown as well. You have enough outs to keep playing this aggressivaly thru the turn. |
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Re: KKK on 4-flush board
[ QUOTE ]
If there is a check raise on the turn I would say three bet and the little club should think he is beat. This may buy a free showdown as well. [/ QUOTE ] Speaking of buying and selling, I have some magic beans which just came in... [ QUOTE ] You have enough outs to keep playing this aggressivaly thru the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Actually, you don't. |
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Re: KKK on 4-flush board
I don't like anything but folding on the river.
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Re: KKK on 4-flush board
Results time. Thanks for the discussion.
The player behind folded as well. Better had a set of 10s. Caller had KT for two pair. No clubs. I like the turn bet much better than the check, although I'm still stressing out that the flop two bet had 3 callers. On the whole I can feel good at b/c on the turn and no overcall on the river I constantly over-estimate callers (they must have the club). So as played I still like the fold. However, I think the river is easier if bet the turn. It further defines the hand. Against 2-3 opponents its at worst not too -EV if we're behind. It should further define the hand (c/r=big club) and if no c/r then it should freeze the action on the river. |
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Re: KKK on 4-flush board
You may all bow down to me now.
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