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Old 10-23-2007, 03:24 PM
chris216 chris216 is offline
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Default NL100 extracting with set on A high flop

Villain was unknown at the time. Do you 3bet? If yes, then how much? I wasn't quite sure what to do, since his raise is not small enough to make this in automatic 3-bet and it is not big enough to cold-call and get it in on the turn.

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BB ($82.10)
UTG ($95)
MP ($174.55)
Hero ($102.50)
Button ($74.25)
SB ($111.80)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($9) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $16</font>, Hero ???
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: NL100 extracting with set on A high flop

50
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: NL100 extracting with set on A high flop

just reraise
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:38 PM
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26 imo
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:39 PM
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: NL100 extracting with set on A high flop

40

what do I win?
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: NL100 extracting with set on A high flop

39 looks weaker
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: NL100 extracting with set on A high flop

What's wrong with just calling here? IMO 3betting is the same as a shove, meaning your raise is asking him, "Are you ready to play for stacks?"

We're about 80% sure our hand will still be best after turn. There would be ~40 in the pot so if villain leads turn 1/2 his stack will be in. Now he's committed and may not realize it.

I suck fwiw. Someone set me straight on why this is bad.
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Old 10-23-2007, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: NL100 extracting with set on A high flop

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What's wrong with just calling here? IMO 3betting is the same as a shove, meaning your raise is asking him, "Are you ready to play for stacks?"

We're about 80% sure our hand will still be best after turn. There would be ~40 in the pot so if villain leads turn 1/2 his stack will be in. Now he's committed and may not realize it.

I suck fwiw. Someone set me straight on why this is bad.

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I don't think we're 3betting because we're worried about villain sucking out on us.

It's more a matter of a card coming off that kills our action. If opponent has AK here, for example, let's just get it in now when he's drawing almost dead.

If we call on the flop and a club rolls off, maybe he'll get cold feet and then we've let him off the hook.
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Old 10-23-2007, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: NL100 extracting with set on A high flop

He seems to be the kind who does bet pretty small, so if we just call and a non clubs comes, are we sure he will bet enough that we can pot-commit him with a raise?
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