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QQ from upfront early in Warmup...Is this ok?
Seat 1: Jemb (14425 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: ogganova (1425 in chips) Seat 3: noseyboy (10975 in chips) Seat 4: $kipToMyLou (26850 in chips) Seat 5: Strakov (8025 in chips) Seat 6: realmann04 (15275 in chips) Seat 7: OnlyPlayRagz (8950 in chips) Seat 8: pucis (14500 in chips) Seat 9: basebal1b (16725 in chips) Strakov: posts small blind 100 realmann04: posts big blind 200 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to basebal1b [Qd Qs] OnlyPlayRagz: folds pucis: folds basebal1b: raises 400 to 600 Jemb: folds ogganova: folds noseyboy: folds $kipToMyLou: raises 1200 to 1800 Strakov: folds realmann04: folds basebal1b: folds It feels incredibly nitty, but this has to be just a fold preflop on the internet often times, right? Against an unknown we'd almost always be willing to get it in when the flop comes 942 here, so is it too silly to just lay the hand down instead of getting our 83BBs in this early? |
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Re: QQ from upfront early in Warmup...Is this ok?
Looks perfect.
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Re: QQ from upfront early in Warmup...Is this ok?
This is an easy call, you can see a flop and reevaluate, plus you have set odds.
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Re: QQ from upfront early in Warmup...Is this ok?
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This is an easy call, you can see a flop and reevaluate, plus you have set odds. [/ QUOTE ] u really don't have set odds for sure... it's very close. However, I'd probably call regardless. |
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Re: QQ from upfront early in Warmup...Is this ok?
Seems like an easy call to me.
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Re: QQ from upfront early in Warmup...Is this ok?
Why are the set odds close here? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Re: QQ from upfront early in Warmup...Is this ok?
Nowhere close having right implied odds to play for set value.
16725/1800 = 9.3:1 and you need at least 18:1 (9:1 to hit multiplied at least 2:1 that he comes along for entire stack). Anyone know what the odds are that no A or K show up in flop ? |
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Re: QQ from upfront early in Warmup...Is this ok?
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Nowhere close having right implied odds to play for set value. 16725/1800 = 9.3:1 and you need at least 18:1 (9:1 to hit multiplied at least 2:1 that he comes along for entire stack). Anyone know what the odds are that no A or K show up in flop ? [/ QUOTE ] It's 1200 to call, 7:1 to hit. Whatever the minimum implied odds multiplier is, it should be applied to someone who 3bets an UTG raiser. You'd have to assign a range to the 3bettor that includes lots of hands with aces and kings to come up with an answer to your question about A or K flopping that would apply to this situation. |
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Re: QQ from upfront early in Warmup...Is this ok?
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Nowhere close having right implied odds to play for set value. 16725/1800 = 9.3:1 [/ QUOTE ] Your math is off. It's not 16725, and not 1800. |
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Re: QQ from upfront early in Warmup...Is this ok?
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[ QUOTE ] This is an easy call, you can see a flop and reevaluate, plus you have set odds. [/ QUOTE ] u really don't have set odds for sure... it's very close. However, I'd probably call regardless. [/ QUOTE ] I probably call as well, vs. an unknown. |
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