Everything we've always wanted to ask about NL thread...

admiralfluff · #1 07-31-2007, 04:04 PM

but have refrained because the questions have likely been answered 100 times before in the NL forums, or might be totally retarded, or we were afraid of the flame-stick.

I'll start:
QUESTIONS:
What is the difference between a BB and a PTBB?

At limit, if I make 2 BB/100 hand at stakes between 10/20-30/60, what approximate stakes and wr in NL would show a comparable skill level, and give me a comparable hourly earn?

Is the variance in NL really smaller in NL for same hourly earn? Can someone give some quantitative estimates?

ANSWERS:
I don't know anything.

MatthewRyan · #2 07-31-2007, 04:09 PM

Search is your friend

MrWookie · #3 07-31-2007, 04:16 PM

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Eh, I'm not opposed to having a designated n00b question thread. We've run one in SSSH, and it worked pretty well. Searching is always good, but if we have a thread full of basic questions, that'll be a nice resource for everyone.

yourface · #4 07-31-2007, 04:11 PM

PTBB is 2x the big blind

from what I understand the variance can be much less because your edge can be considerably larger relative to lhe

KurtSF · #5 07-31-2007, 04:16 PM

These numbers are entirely pulled out of my [censored], so just take them as examples. Of course, everything depends.

Limit a 1BB/100 winrate is a good goal to shoot for. Your SD will be about 15BB/100.

In NL your SD will be about 40ptBB/100, but that's actually less variance, because 8ptBB/100 is a good winrate to shoot for in NL, making the variance less compared to your winrate.

phydaux · #6 07-31-2007, 04:19 PM

2-4 PTBB is a good, sustainable win rate at NL. So if you're making 2 BB/100 playing 20/40 limit, you'd have to make 4 PTBB playing 5/10 NL to have the same hourly rate.

But the BR requiorments would be much differant. To play 20/40 limit, you'd want a BR of $10k-$15k. Playing 5/10 NL, you'd want a BR or $20k-$30k.

Wetdog · #7 07-31-2007, 05:17 PM

phydaux, in another thread you mention the "rule of 5 & 10." I always muck that (even suited), but I doubt that's what you were talking about. Could you expound here about that?

edit: I kant spel.

sixfour · #8 07-31-2007, 05:39 PM

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phydaux, in another thread you mention the "rule of 5 & 10." I always muck that (even suited), but I doubt that's what you were talking about. Could you expound here about that?

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IIRC it's something that's mentioned in Ciaffone and Reuben where if you're considering calling a preflop raise in position with a speculative hand (i.e. pp's, sc's), you've got an easy call if it's for less than 5% of your stack and an easy fold if it's for more than 10%. Anything in between you need to use judgment.

phydaux · #9 07-31-2007, 06:28 PM

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phydaux, in another thread you mention the "rule of 5 & 10." I always muck that (even suited), but I doubt that's what you were talking about. Could you expound here about that?

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Spot on. Also keep in mind that effective stacks need to be at least 80bb or else the implied odds will be too low.

IIRC it's something that's mentioned in Ciaffone and Reuben where if you're considering calling a preflop raise in position with a speculative hand (i.e. pp's, sc's), you've got an easy call if it's for less than 5% of your stack and an easy fold if it's for more than 10%. Anything in between you need to use judgment.

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Alobar · #10 07-31-2007, 04:17 PM

What are the comparable limits between the two? Like is 100NL roughly like 3/6 limit?

Also when people are talking about winning 5bb/100 at NL is that in PTBB/100 or just bb/100? Basically is the PTBB the standard or is it only to be assumed to be PTBB/100 when they actually put "PTBB/100"?

Also whats considered a good winrate for NL? Like the 2BB/100 limit equivilent?

thanks