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UFC 74 thread
It's probably time to get another thread going on UFC 74.
The last one got ridiculous with stupid side conversations about steriods and supplements, and very little discussion about sports betting. So back to the sports betting... These lines are a combination of different books, please to be sharing other, better lines. Randy Couture +110 Gabriel Gonzaga -130 Georges St. Pierre -210 Josh Koscheck +190 Joe Stevenson -240 Kurt Pellegrino +210 Clay Guida -115 Marcus Aurelio -115 Renato "Babalu" Sobral -260 David Heath +200 Roger Huerta -500 Alberto Crane +350 Kendall Grove -230 Patrick Cote +180 Frank Mir -185 Antoni Hardonk +145 Your thoughts? Edit: lines changed a little after i line shopped a bit. No arbs, but much less juice on the main events. |
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Re: UFC 74 thread
Long time lurker here but I'll give some of my thoughts...
[ QUOTE ] Randy Couture +110 Gabriel Gonzaga -130 [/ QUOTE ] I really don't see how Randy is going to win this. Although i hate betting against The Natural, he really has very little value to me at +110. He was extremely impressive against Sylvia but he now has to face someone who is a competant and agressive striker, as well as someone who will not just be looking for a tie up on the ground. I don't think there's any way that Randy wins unless Gabriel gets continually taken down and Randy wins a 5 round lay and pray decision, which I'm not sure is possible with Gabriel's JJ. I like Gonzaga early. [ QUOTE ] Georges St. Pierre -210 Josh Koscheck +190 [/ QUOTE ] I like GSP in this fight but I'm not sure about the number. I think if I can get Kos at >+200, I'll have to book it. Although you have to think GSP will come out very strong in an effort to get a shot at his WW belt, you can't discredit Kos' wrestling. While I would be surprised if it happened, I could see Kos winning a 3 round lay and pray decision. Kos' strikes have improved to a point where he is no longer completely outmatched on the feet, which will be vital to him winning a 3 round decision. I'm still on the fence at the current number but depending on where the line moves, I will most likely be taking Kos. That's it for now, I'll research a little more on the undercard but as of now I like Aurelio -115 and Hardonk +140. |
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Re: UFC 74 thread
Preliminarily, I like Gonzaga, Joe Daddy, and Grove. Will maybe elaborate later.
And even though I despise him, I'm kinda leaning towards Koscheck. Though I'd love it if someone could convince me that GSP will KO Kos like he did Hughes. Mir looks tempting given his huge advantage on the ground, but he's such a wild card I'm hesitant. |
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Re: UFC 74 thread
I dunno about Kos.
GSP has a very good history against wrestlers. Hughes, Sherk, etc. have had a hard time against GSP. Is Kos realistically that much better of a wrestler than these guys...? I think this line is pretty accurate, at first glance. |
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Re: UFC 74 thread
imo Josh Koscheck fought a great stand up fight agiant mr. undefeated. Who is now 19 and ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNE
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Re: UFC 74 thread
Kendall Grove -230
Patrick Cote +180 I think these are the best odds on that card so far. Patrick did farelly well in the Ultimate Fighter and I think he's forsure bigger and stronger than Kendall Grove. Also, he trains with GSP who just came off a humiliating loss so you can only imagine how dedicated he will be to dominating his next fight. And Patrick is his size, and could very well have been his sparring partner in training. |
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Kendall Grove -230 Patrick Cote +180 I think these are the best odds on that card so far. Patrick did farelly well in the Ultimate Fighter and I think he's forsure bigger and stronger than Kendall Grove. Also, he trains with GSP who just came off a humiliating loss so you can only imagine how dedicated he will be to dominating his next fight. And Patrick is his size, and could very well have been his sparring partner in training. [/ QUOTE ] I thought you meant the other way...as in bet the farm on grove. Cote has never shown any amazing talents in any professional MMA fight IMO. Tons of hype from Cote keeps being brought up because GSP has SWORN in several interviews that Cote is an absolute beast in the gym, but a dud when it comes to showtime. People keep expecting Cote to show up better the next time, but we've never seen that ever. Remember how midboggling close Cote's line was against Lutter? Remember how lackluster his only UFC win was? |
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[ QUOTE ] Kendall Grove -230 Patrick Cote +180 I think these are the best odds on that card so far. Patrick did farelly well in the Ultimate Fighter and I think he's forsure bigger and stronger than Kendall Grove. Also, he trains with GSP who just came off a humiliating loss so you can only imagine how dedicated he will be to dominating his next fight. And Patrick is his size, and could very well have been his sparring partner in training. [/ QUOTE ] I thought you meant the other way...as in bet the farm on grove. Cote has never shown any amazing talents in any professional MMA fight IMO. Tons of hype from Cote keeps being brought up because GSP has SWORN in several interviews that Cote is an absolute beast in the gym, but a dud when it comes to showtime. People keep expecting Cote to show up better the next time, but we've never seen that ever. Remember how midboggling close Cote's line was against Lutter? Remember how lackluster his only UFC win was? [/ QUOTE ] I am in no way saying that Cote will be the next super star of the UFC, but i will say he has a great chance against Grove. You bring up the Lutter fight, but that was a bad match up for Cote. Lutter would dominate Cote on the ground and was stronger and bigger than him so that took away a lot of his stand up. Now I can't make excuses for all of Cote's performances but will say that his match up against Grove will be in his favour. Grove enjoys striking and Cote does have a strong chin, he is also strong enough to take Grove down, which he will because i think Grove's tdd isn't as strong as it could be. It won't be a pretty win but i believe that Cote will win this fight around 55% of the time. I'd like to hear how Grove will end this fight. |
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I asked him that directly in our chat with him on Monday night.
Grove intends to win this fight by unanimous decision, 30-27. He's got a pretty specific and focused gameplan. -P |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Kendall Grove -230 Patrick Cote +180 I think these are the best odds on that card so far. Patrick did farelly well in the Ultimate Fighter and I think he's forsure bigger and stronger than Kendall Grove. Also, he trains with GSP who just came off a humiliating loss so you can only imagine how dedicated he will be to dominating his next fight. And Patrick is his size, and could very well have been his sparring partner in training. [/ QUOTE ] I thought you meant the other way...as in bet the farm on grove. Cote has never shown any amazing talents in any professional MMA fight IMO. Tons of hype from Cote keeps being brought up because GSP has SWORN in several interviews that Cote is an absolute beast in the gym, but a dud when it comes to showtime. People keep expecting Cote to show up better the next time, but we've never seen that ever. Remember how midboggling close Cote's line was against Lutter? Remember how lackluster his only UFC win was? [/ QUOTE ] I am in no way saying that Cote will be the next super star of the UFC, but i will say he has a great chance against Grove. You bring up the Lutter fight, but that was a bad match up for Cote. Lutter would dominate Cote on the ground and was stronger and bigger than him so that took away a lot of his stand up. Now I can't make excuses for all of Cote's performances but will say that his match up against Grove will be in his favour. Grove enjoys striking and Cote does have a strong chin, he is also strong enough to take Grove down, which he will because i think Grove's tdd isn't as strong as it could be. It won't be a pretty win but i believe that Cote will win this fight around 55% of the time. I'd like to hear how Grove will end this fight. [/ QUOTE ] OH AND WHO'S EVERYBODYS DADDY --- I AM i actually missed this fight but the money will confort me just a regular brag post |
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