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Suspicious Flop Calls?
Villains in both hands are unknown.
HAND 1: Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP calls. Flop: (5.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls. Turn: (3.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP checks, Hero ? HAND 2: Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls. Flop: (5.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls. Turn: (3.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, Hero ? What is your turn action for each? If you bet, what is your plan for the rest of the hand if you are checkraised? Thanks, Cartman |
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Re: Suspicious Flop Calls?
hand 1,
bet turn and if raised, um, ug, call down? aces, pairs, flush draws cant have a free card hand 2, check, play river accordingly this is text book free card. i may call a river bet even if i miss depending on gut feeling. |
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Re: Suspicious Flop Calls?
These aren't suspicious. They are retarded open limpers. They're probably peeling with garbage. I bet both.
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Re: Suspicious Flop Calls?
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These aren't suspicious. They are retarded open limpers. They're probably peeling with garbage. I bet both. [/ QUOTE ] Am I correct to assume that you just call down if checkraised with the QQ and you fold unimproved on the river if checkraised with the As 8s? |
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Re: Suspicious Flop Calls?
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[ QUOTE ] These aren't suspicious. They are retarded open limpers. They're probably peeling with garbage. I bet both. [/ QUOTE ] Am I correct to assume that you just call down if checkraised with the QQ and you fold unimproved on the river if checkraised with the As 8s? [/ QUOTE ]Usually, yeah. |
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Re: Suspicious Flop Calls?
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These aren't suspicious. They are retarded open limpers. They're probably peeling with garbage. I bet both. [/ QUOTE ] QFT |
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Re: Suspicious Flop Calls?
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These aren't suspicious. They are retarded open limpers. They're probably peeling with garbage. I bet both. [/ QUOTE ] Yea. But in hand1, against a retarded open-limper, aren`t we gaining more by letting them bluff/catch 1 of their "outs" on the river? |
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Re: Suspicious Flop Calls?
I check both of these hands on the turn. I call the river in both hands, also.
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Re: Suspicious Flop Calls?
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hand 2, check, play river accordingly this is text book free card. [/ QUOTE ] It`s not. We have an open limper that called the flop on a board that probably missed him. We have what is probably the best hand. --> A free card is more likely to help villain than us. If raised we have a good couple of outs. |
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Re: Suspicious Flop Calls?
These are both close imo.
I`d be more apt to bet in hand 2 because if i get c/red I have an easy fold on the river ui. So in hand 2 I only loose 2 instead of 3 if behind trips. In hand 1 we may loose value from smaller pps if we check the turn. On the other hand we sometimes induce bluffs from hands that fold to a turn bet. |
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