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Old 10-18-2007, 09:41 AM
People_Mover People_Mover is offline
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Default The River c/r bluff NLCASH

Villian is Marauderrrrrrrr for those who know him. Very aggro and we've only been playing about 10-15 minutes.

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
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SB: $443
Hero (BB): $415

Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">SB raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($28) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">SB bets $28</font>, Hero calls $28

Turn: ($84) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">SB bets $66</font>, Hero calls $66

River: ($216) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">SB bets $149</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $307 and is All-In</font>

reasons for shoving: his time bank went off making me think he's thinking about how much to bet to as a bluff. He doesn't bet a 9 there for value. Maybe I have the best hand? What do you think?

On a side note, whoever is MAvante'R or whatever on Full Tilt, thanks for the hit and run yesterday....don't play me if you're going to hit and run. I expect better from a reg like you.
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Old 10-18-2007, 09:45 AM
higHstaKesOwneR higHstaKesOwneR is offline
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Default Re: The River c/r bluff

if you think he bluff why cr?
i don' like the cr here because he is getting 3 to 1 he really only can fold a bluff here...
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:23 AM
KakiTee KakiTee is offline
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Default Re: The River c/r bluff

I don't mind it if he can fold a hand, especially when he may be banking because he is betting A9 thin. I have no history with him though, and would need enough reasons to do this when the push is a minraise.
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: The River c/r bluff

I like this play a lot.

1. His bet size looks like a bluff.
2. This is a scary board, so a lot of the times he will bluff at it.
3. Even if he has a hand, such as a set, and is value betting it, you have some fold equity.
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: The River c/r bluff

I'm not too fond of it either . You really need him to fold
307/(307+365) ~ 45% of the time . He's getting nice odds to call this with plenty of hands and I doubt he will fold more than 45% of the time .
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:56 AM
Vinetou Vinetou is offline
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Default Re: The River c/r bluff

No one folds to a checkraise on the river. He is getting good odds and unless he is on a bluff, you won't get him to fold. Don't try to bluff people who fired three barrells even if they are big bluffers. Actually, that's how I make the most of my money. People try to playback at me when I take a very strong line instead of trying to playback in smaller pots when I didn't commit that much of my stack yet and am more ready to fold.
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:14 PM
AbreuTime AbreuTime is offline
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Default Re: The River c/r bluff

If he folds you probably had the best hand. It's a minraise.
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:35 AM
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Default Re: The River c/r bluff NLCASH

spot for a checkraise was the turrrrrn
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:50 AM
Vinetou Vinetou is offline
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Default Re: The River c/r bluff NLCASH

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spot for a checkraise was the turrrrrn

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Villain calls with a 9 easily in that case.
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Old 10-19-2007, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: The River c/r bluff NLCASH

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spot for a checkraise was the turrrrrn

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c/r shove? No sense in c/r the turn and then folding to 3 bet all in?
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