WPT World Poker Open thread

Kevmath · #1 06-20-2007, 08:27 PM

Tonight's tournament covers the World Poker Open at Tunica's Gold Strike Casino, the feature table consisted of:

Seat 1 Gary Kainer $514,000
Seat 2 J.C. Tran $181,000
Seat 3 Bryan Sumner $596,000
Seat 4 Kido Pham $781,000
Seat 5 Young Cho $2,570,000
Seat 6 Daniel Negreanu $1,296,000

Tyler Durden · #2 06-20-2007, 09:55 PM

I had the TV on mute but did Daniel Negreanu say Kido Pham made a call when Negreanu was not even in the hand? Seems sketchy to me, he needs to STFU if he does not have cards.

Sykes · #3 06-20-2007, 09:59 PM

These "pros" play like [censored].

Smooth flat-call with AA against a raise and a re-raise daniel. Seriously, give a free flop away to have him crack your hand.

The K7 "call", Kido should know better.

The AT fold by JC, against a tilting Kido, this is a snap call and race with your stack.

The AQ all in by daniel against a tight solid player. Genius idea.

DeuceSeven · #4 06-20-2007, 11:58 PM

How about daniel with the T9s call for a large chunk of his chips? Pretty horrible even worse the guy who made a standard raise, just ship it in you're too short. Also once it got to 3 handed you can't make anything but an all in raise. I didn't like the 999 hand. The guy bet the flop, which is good since dn is a calling station, I would have then checked the turn because dn likes to bet the turn after a flop bet/turn check.

Dima2000123 · #5 06-21-2007, 12:16 AM

I can understand Daniel's call with AA, he was up against an aggressive player, and he didn't want to lose him early. Of course, it's kinda hard to conceal your hand when you smooth call a 3bet pre-flop.

As for Kido Pham, he got what he deserved, I wish Jamie Golds of the poker world would trip themselves up more often like that.

As for Bryan Sumner, who could've guess that he was an accountant? Sounds like he could almost benefit from Kido Pham's favorite charity's work.

juttelstud · #6 06-21-2007, 01:07 AM

This was one the worst final tables I've ever seen. Nice structure WPT. :eye roll

ACG2x · #7 06-21-2007, 10:15 AM

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As for Bryan Sumner, who could've guess that he was an accountant? Sounds like he could almost benefit from Kido Pham's favorite charity's work.

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Yeah, Pham's deal with the K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]-7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] was his own fault. Why would you ever say the words "I call" in a sentence out loud when contemplating action at the table?

That blind structure reminded me of the local free bar tournament *ahem* "circuit".

TexRef · #8 06-21-2007, 10:16 PM

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I didn't like the 999 hand. The guy bet the flop, which is good since dn is a calling station, I would have then checked the turn because dn likes to bet the turn after a flop bet/turn check.

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Yeah - I thought he should have taken this line too ... would have gotten DN to put some money in on the turn almost certainly. Act like the flop bet was a cbet gone badly, then CR him on the turn -- or check-call and VB river.

Slim Pickens · #9 06-23-2007, 02:52 PM

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How about daniel with the T9s call for a large chunk of his chips? Pretty horrible even worse the guy who made a standard raise, just ship it in you're too short.

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My guess is this was actually planned as a stop-n-go, but after hitting the flop pretty hard, he checks to induce a bluff from a worse hand. His opponent has either an underpair to the tens or two missed overcards most of the time. Even when he has something substantially better, DN has a lot of outs. DN is way ahead of his opponent's hand range and the most value he can get out of it is to check and let him bluff. I'm pretty sure DN would have bet out big on any flop he didn't hit.

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Also once it got to 3 handed you can't make anything but an all in raise. I didn't like the 999 hand. The guy bet the flop, which is good since dn is a calling station, I would have then checked the turn because dn likes to bet the turn after a flop bet/turn check.

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I was yelling at the TV for him to think for a bit and check the turn. It apparently didn't work because I TiVo'ed it so he couldn't hear me. Checking the turn OOP with a set against an opponent who will bet a lot is a no-brainer. That was a dream of a final table hand and he blew it.

DeuceSeven · #10 06-23-2007, 03:03 PM

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How about daniel with the T9s call for a large chunk of his chips? Pretty horrible even worse the guy who made a standard raise, just ship it in you're too short.

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My guess is this was actually planned as a stop-n-go, but after hitting the flop pretty hard, he checks to induce a bluff from a worse hand. His opponent has either an underpair to the tens or two missed overcards most of the time. Even when he has something substantially better, DN has a lot of outs. DN is way ahead of his opponent's hand range and the most value he can get out of it is to check and let him bluff. I'm pretty sure DN would have bet out big on any flop he didn't hit.

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That's certainly not horrible, IMO and it's only an opinion, I would rather open with ATC on the next hand, unless of course the other guy was raising alot.

EDIT: If I were at that table I'd kill kido for hollywooding every frickin preflop decision, he got what he deserved with the Kx hand.