another NEW Online U S Gamoing CARD SITE

[oldbookguy]

Ok, here we go again, this card game, Rummy Royal is open to U S players AND funded by, thats right, PAYPAL.

Marketed as a skill game, it is cards, no different than poker.


Thoughts?

Site:
http://www.rummyroyal.com/

From FAQ'S:
There is an 8 state ban.
http://www.rummyroyal.com/how_to_pla...html#stateList

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[Uglyowl]

Interesting, I think it is a good thing more avenues of gaming are starting up and also previously "shy" Paypal is jumping in.

Get another segment of America into online gaming, I think it will make harder and harder to keep down.

I have never played rummy, how is the skill vs. chance in relation to poker?

[oldbookguy]

Rummy is a draw type card game, you make straights, 3 / 4 kinds.

Yes, nice that payPal is funding this. However, their FAQ's state legal 'SKILL' gaming is allowed, but NO poker, even if legal, in U.S. In the E. U. I understand they fund all gaming.

Now, Rummy.

You start with 7 cards and the idea is to play all your cards but one (the final discard).

You get points for cards played and lose points for cards you are holding when the other player goes rummy.

Generally played to a set point amount, first to 1K points and so one or played by the point, say .10 per point.

Similar to gin.

Pure chance and strategy.

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[Legislurker]

Bots people write are pretty good at gin and rummy

[TheMathProf]

So as a WA state resident, I'm really confused. I know that online gambling isn't legal, but couldn't find this so called skills exemption in the WA state statutes that this site claims...

If said statute exists, wouldn't that provide another avenue of attacking that state's online ban?

[DeadMoneyDad]

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So as a WA state resident, I'm really confused. I know that online gambling isn't legal, but couldn't find this so called skills exemption in the WA state statutes that this site claims...

If said statute exists, wouldn't that provide another avenue of attacking that state's online ban?

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Well the subscription sites hope to charge a fee for the time conntected and offer games under RCW 9.46.0201 the Amuesment section, games of skill not dependent on the operators with limited prizes.
RCW 9.46.0225 is the killer for real money games in WA, IMO

RCW 9.46.0282 "Social card game." holds some hope for site operators given that you could limit your players in WA to use of your network to only non-rake games and hope for a change in the law, but this is not a viable marketing strategy as the rest of the players on your net would want the same deal.


Hope this helps,


D$D

[oldbookguy]

From you WS Gaming laws:

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RCW 9.46.0225
"Contest of chance."

as used in this chapter, means any contest, game, gaming scheme, or gaming device in which the outcome depends in a material degree<emphasis added> upon an element of chance, notwithstanding that skill of the contestants may also be a factor therein.

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Also, for those who CAN and hopefully WILL look this case up, it may be VERY important to Poker, a Federal Court in Nevade back in 1965 declared Gin Rummy a Game of Skill.

From http://www.gamecolony.com/gin_rummy_game_skill.shtml

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Gin Rummy: Skill or Chance? District Court Decides!

In mid-1960s a Las Vegas-based Gin Rummy tournament was promoted by mailing flyers to players. The post office objected on the grounds that it was illegal to promote a "game of chance" (a lottery) through postal services. This case ended up in court. After listening to the testimony of experts that included statisticians and several prominent players, the US District Court of Las Vegas on February 23, 1965, ruled that Gin Rummy is indeed a game of skill.

(from "How to Win at Gin Rummy". Pramod Shankar, Ph.D. First Carol Publishing Edition, 1997. page 76.)

Now that you have heard it from the judge, you better believer it! Skill plays an important role in the majority of hands and over the long run the more skilled player is destined to win.

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