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Old 08-10-2007, 10:33 PM
michaelantoi michaelantoi is offline
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Default NL50 - Is this AA/KK?

Seat 1: <font color="#000000">SB</font> ($50,20)
Seat 3: <font color="#000000">BB</font> ($72,95)
Seat 5: <font color="#000000">UTG</font> ($92,18)
Seat 6: <font color="#000000">UTG+1</font> ($48,00)
Seat 8: <font color="#000000">CO</font> ($92,83)
Seat 10: <font color="#990000">Hero</font> ($49,00)

<font color="#000000">SB</font> posts small blind of $0,25
<font color="#000000">BB</font> posts big blind of $0,50

<font color="#990000">Hero</font> is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

<font color="#000000">UTG</font> folds
<font color="#000000">UTG+1</font> folds
<font color="#000000">CO</font> calls $0,50
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> raises to $2,50
<font color="#000000">SB</font> folds
<font color="#000000">BB</font> raises to $8,50
<font color="#000000">CO</font> folds
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> calls $6,00


Dealing flop 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Pot is: $18,25

<font color="#000000">BB</font> bets $6,00
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> raises to $18,00
<font color="#000000">BB</font> is all-in ($57,95)
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - Is this AA/KK?

don't raise the bet if you're not going to snap call a shove
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Old 08-10-2007, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - Is this AA/KK?

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don't raise the bet if you're not going to snap call a shove

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Bingo. Otherwise, think about what you're doing. Raising and folding meant your raise was "just to see where you were at," which is a cardinal sin around these parts.
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Old 08-10-2007, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - Is this AA/KK?

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Raising and folding meant your raise was "just to see where you were at," which is a cardinal sin around these parts.

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I've heard many 2+2'rs reiterate this concept. Is it outlined in one of the books?
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Is this AA/KK?

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don't raise the bet if you're not going to snap call a shove

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Bingo. Otherwise, think about what you're doing. Raising and folding meant your raise was "just to see where you were at," which is a cardinal sin around these parts.

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got to let it go now. to avoid this decide whether or not to play remainig streets or move on to thye next hand
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Old 08-11-2007, 05:16 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Is this AA/KK?

As played you probably should fold, you built a big pot without being willing to play one, therefore you set yourself up for a tough decision.
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Old 08-11-2007, 05:27 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Is this AA/KK?

Villain can have AsKs for sure but AA is literally 6x more likely.
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Old 08-14-2007, 03:52 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Is this AA/KK?

This is probably a call as played (with the raise on the flop) with the odds that is layed out, but I really struggle with these hands myself, I've seen to many players at these stakes overvaluing a worse overpair to be convinced that ur behind. I probably just call the flop and re-evaluate, but it doesn't get easier to lay it down on the turn to another blank...
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Old 08-10-2007, 11:34 PM
michaelantoi michaelantoi is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - Is this AA/KK?

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don't raise the bet if you're not going to snap call a shove

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It is a 'lets see where i'm at raise'

and i'm not priced in if he shoves.

If I call and he bets a blanked turn, then I still dont know where I stand.
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Is this AA/KK?

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don't raise the bet if you're not going to snap call a shove

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It is a 'lets see where i'm at raise'

and i'm not priced in if he shoves.

If I call and he bets a blanked turn, then I still dont know where I stand.

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so he shoved all in, do you know where you stand at now?
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