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4/180: QQ deepstacked vs. chipleader.
Button seems fairly good, semi-loose and aggressive. I haven't seen him 3-bet so far, though I did 3-bet an UTG minraise of his, he folded, a donk flat-called, and I took it down on a low flop.
Not sure what to make of this weird small reraise. Does anyone 4-bet preflop? Flop is terrible, of course, so check-fold is standard, I'd say. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com Button (t24845) SB (t8974) BB (t5547) UTG (t10365) MP1 (t5380) MP2 (t6329) Hero (t12690) Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t1600</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t1000. Flop: (t3325) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t2000</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: t5325 |
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Re: 4/180: QQ deepstacked vs. chipleader.
as played fold.
But I 4bet allin a lot here |
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Re: 4/180: QQ deepstacked vs. chipleader.
Flop is standard.
Need some reasons why you didn't re-raise preflop though. |
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Re: 4/180: QQ deepstacked vs. chipleader.
I'm allin after button's reraise here.
As played I fold after flop. |
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Re: 4/180: QQ deepstacked vs. chipleader.
Well, ya know, we're 60BBs deep. Do we get calls from anything but QQ+, AK if we shove? It may be a 4/180, but my read is that he's fairly decent...
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Re: 4/180: QQ deepstacked vs. chipleader.
I understand your point, but I don't think you are at a high enough level for this to be relevant enough.
In a 4/180 I need a pretty strong read for this logic to apply. And at least if you re-raise, you don't give him a shot at that flop. You say he is a bit laggy, so he will probably have QQ+ a very small amount of the time. Your raise came from cuttoff, so a decent lag player might "resteal" pretty light. If villain is decent as you say, he might be aware of his image, and call with something like TT+, AQ+. He does have you covered and will still be deep if he loses. |
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Re: 4/180: QQ deepstacked vs. chipleader.
Hmmm i see your point but I have a problem with it. That being the assumption that since he is a decent player he is baiting you with AA or KK. I would think that a decent player might play back at you with a much wider range here. Granted that little reraise would catch my attention. Well crap now you have me teetering both ways.
It may be closer then I once thought but I still believe I'm ahead here more then I'm not. I guess I need a better read then "decent player" to presuade me much more. |
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Re: 4/180: QQ deepstacked vs. chipleader.
Echo: We are defineatley ahead of Buttons range here, the point OP was making was that if we push, he might call only when he has QQ+.
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Re: 4/180: QQ deepstacked vs. chipleader.
Yeah we get called by QQ+ but as you said here it's not as likely he has that. I guess that's my point.
[ QUOTE ] In a 4/180 I need a pretty strong read for this logic to apply. And at least if you re-raise, you don't give him a shot at that flop. You say he is a bit laggy, so he will probably have QQ+ a very small amount of the time. Your raise came from cuttoff, so a decent lag player might "resteal" pretty light. If villain is decent as you say, he might be aware of his image, and call with something like TT+, AQ+. He does have you covered and will still be deep if he loses. [/ QUOTE ] I think we are saying the same thing....you're just saying it better. |
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Re: 4/180: QQ deepstacked vs. chipleader.
[ QUOTE ]
Well, ya know, we're 60BBs deep. Do we get calls from anything but QQ+, AK if we shove? [/ QUOTE ]I a 4/180, yes. People do this all the time with any pocket pair, including stuff like 44. Edit: And more importantly, they'll call- and then flop a set [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] |
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