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Old 04-07-2006, 06:29 AM
LFC LFC is offline
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Default 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg

Hey!
Need your opinion, how would U play it.
guys seems solid, I didnt make many stealing raises earlier

hand: #1
I'm ss, initial pot 5100
push or fold?

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UTG (t53865)
Button (t113526)
SB(Hero) (t17314)
BB (t85295)

Preflop:Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t12000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB ??? </font>

Hand #2
Call or Fold? Should I push earlier or jsut call ?
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BB (t26801)
UTG (t120526)
Button (Hero)(t41578)
SB (t81095)

Preflop:Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t12000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333"> raises to t26601</font>, Button ???
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Old 04-07-2006, 06:45 AM
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Default Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg

Hand 1--Fold and then push the next chance you get.

Hand 2--You're getting 3 to 1 pot odds, easy call. You might consider just pushing on the button and not having to worry about calling a reraise since you'll be priced in anyways.
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Old 04-07-2006, 06:45 AM
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Default Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg

Hand 1 I probably fold, but I suck at restealing. Hand 2, you're priced in unless you are against AA.
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Old 04-07-2006, 06:57 AM
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Default Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg

#1 fold?
we're down to 4 players, my M is about 3,5 and effective M is much lower. I know he raises but is it better to fold and hope I would get something good in next 2 round ?
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Old 04-07-2006, 07:04 AM
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Default Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg

No, pushing with low M mainly relies on fold equity. He is incorrect to call your push here no matter what his cards are. Pushing here does not cause him to make a mistake, and you are a dog to his raising range.

No matter what two cards you get next hand, pushing is +EV. Just wait; you don't necessarily need something "good".
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Old 04-07-2006, 07:38 AM
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Default Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg

ok, thanks, that's what I asked for.
pushing nexh hand is more +EV than pushing that A4off

#2 easy call of course, but would U play it diffrent? push instead of raise ?
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Old 04-07-2006, 08:20 AM
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Default Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg

Yeah, I'd push
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Old 04-07-2006, 08:21 AM
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Default Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg

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ok, thanks, that's what I asked for.
pushing nexh hand is more +EV than pushing that A4off

#2 easy call of course, but would U play it diffrent? push instead of raise ?

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This is really close and depends on table dynamics. I doubt there's ever a situation where one play's much worse than the other.
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Old 04-07-2006, 11:16 AM
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Default Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg

I wouldn't say necessarily good.
Almost just pushing w/any hand when first to ACT. Suppose roughly those 50%+ Hand Range ?
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Old 04-07-2006, 11:21 AM
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Default Re: 2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg

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Suppose roughly those any 2 cards Hand Range ?

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Seriously. I'm all in when I'm first to act with any 2 cards if I fold here, and probably 2 hands in a row. Hero will be button next time, and I'm pushing if CO folds...and I'm pushing a wide range from CO if nobody calls the button push.

Hero is about to run out of FE if he doesn't steal a lot or get lucky and double up. Hero will have roughly 0 FE at the next blind level or even if he just has to go through the blinds one more time and loses another 4500, he needs to accumulate chips NOW.
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