Party 600 - I squeeze AKs, and he insta-shoves

[raze]

I want to first note that over 25,000 hands at Party mid-stakes, I have seen exactly ONE 4bet-shove, and I didn't call it.

I'm playing a little on the tight side here. Villain is 23/20/2 over 600 and has been at the table for maybe 25 hands, and my numbers are probably like 12/8 for that period. The cold-caller is a 55/33 fish.

Villain took about two seconds to shove.



Party Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $987.75
SB: $119.50
Hero (BB): $968.60
UTG: $669.25
CO: $600

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $22</font>, BTN calls $22, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $97</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $600 and is All-In, BTN folds

[Praetor]

easy call

[shootaa]

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easy call

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who snap shoves KK/AA, honestly. he probably has like AQc here, goooooo

[jessica1994]

wtf about u seeing ONE 4bet shove in 25 THOUSAND hands?

i play lower stakes and 4bet shove preflop over a 3bet like once every few hundred hands at least.

[Ajahn]

Move down?

[SpecT]

uhhh.. AKs is the nuts here. Now if you had AQ or JJ that makes things interesting

[raze]

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wtf about u seeing ONE 4bet shove in 25 THOUSAND hands?

i play lower stakes and 4bet shove preflop over a 3bet like once every few hundred hands at least.

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I do too, I mentioned it. I get looked up by AK a lot and JJ/QQ from time to time. This means this guy probably does too.

Again, this guy probably expects to be called by AK and QQ and maybe JJ.

[FireStorm]

DOES it happen? Sure, I don't doubt it. Will AK get it in here in a dominant scenario some instances? I don't doubt that either. However, unless I'm missing out on something and Partypoker has insane players who love to stick buy ins in the center like it's the final of a WSOP $1500 NL televised event, it is doubtfully frequent enough to show a profit in this spot. Me, personally, I could retire in my late 20's if I was the CO here where I was guaranteed to get beat into the pot by AK. I've played live and online and I rarely if ever show up with worse.

In reference to the above, if this guy expects us to have AK/QQ/JJ a lot of the time, and to look him up with these hands, doesn't bode well for us, does it?

Lastly, with regards to responding to posts like these without being a Party player, my question is, what posts does someone like me respond to on this site? 95% of posted hands are online, versus regulars, with site and player specific info. If I don't post there, where should I? B+M and Home Poker feature no hands, they feature rules nits and angle shoot posts. Should I ignore this site because I happen to play live?

[fitnessfreak]

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wtf about u seeing ONE 4bet shove in 25 THOUSAND hands?

i play lower stakes and 4bet shove preflop over a 3bet like once every few hundred hands at least.

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I do too, I mentioned it. I get looked up by AK a lot and JJ/QQ from time to time. This means this guy probably does too.

Again, this guy probably expects to be called by AK and QQ and maybe JJ.

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your point being?

[Melchiades]

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Again, this guy probably expects to be called by AK and QQ and maybe JJ.

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So [censored] what? He expects us to fold a whole lot of other hands we squeeze with. This thread is bizarre. I don't play 600NL at Party, but I would snapcall in both 200NL/400NL at Party.