Villain is awful

[HOWMANY]

7 Card Stud High-Low ($30/$60), Ante $5, Bring-In $10 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.17 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 6: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (5.50 SB)

Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (3.75 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (5.75 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

River - (7.75 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___?

[Andy B]

I'd still fold third. Check the river.

[Sevenfold]

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I'd still fold third. Check the river.

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Agree on 3rd, but why check the river here Andy?

If villian makes/has any pair he's going to call. Wheel looks slim with the cards we are holding.

Given that the villian is 'awful', I'm inclined to bet here.

[Micturition Man]

You are right river is an easy vbet. He will bet any hand that beats you if you check and he will be able to raise you with very few hands that beat you.

Plus you just have a lot of scoop value here.

[Andy B]

I'm going to stick with my original recommendation. I doubt that the other guy is going to pay off with one pair every time. Against two pair, we're beaten. A decent chunk of the time, he will make a low, in which case we don't make anything. If we didn't have an open pair, or if we had another low card showing, I would like the value-bet.

[Sevenfold]

I think an awful player is calling any pair here 100% of the time.

In his mind, it is too easy for us to have (63) or whatever in the hole , say:
(63)A229(river any 4 7 8 T J Q K).

The villian making a low is meaningless for our calculations (except when he makes a wheel).

I doubt strongly he will raise 2 pair.

Any time he makes a pair we make a bet. Any stronger high we lose 1 (maybe 2, flush, funky set if he raises).

I think we get paid off here the vast majority of high hand battles.

[iamastud]

I would not raise on 3rd. i think i would just call 3rd and not raise. i think it is worthwhile to see another card on 4th.

On river, i ould check. Your pair is exposed, he could see your possible hands as such, and this makes it better to check and call. it oesn't look lik the best spot for a value bet here.

[Tha Stunna]

3rd took guts. That's the right play against most players I'd think, but I'd be much happier with a better pair so you don't get overcarded.

I would definitely bet 7th, since you could easily be betting a low + pair. A pair of deuces is not terribly different from ace high, and he would call against that. As the cards fell, your betting is automatic on each street.

Two small pair on the river is often an interesting topic; I'm half considering writing an article about it.

[HOWMANY]

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3rd took guts. That's the right play against most players I'd think, but I'd be much happier with a better pair so you don't get overcarded.


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Third isn't a standard play for me on third but I liked it here. Against a normal Ace complete I just fold, against any other card I sometimes reraise, sometimes call, sometimes fold. This guy was too terrible to not play here though, and with an Ace complete+2 bets I was very confident this pot would be HU.

[SweetLuckyMe]

Unless original raiser is a bit of a maniac, I'm not really fond of the reraise. Of course, if I decide to play the 55A, I'm raising, but I guess I question playing it in the first place under most situations.

After 3rd it's all pretty automatice, given the cards that fell. The river is a clear value bet. You've very likely got the whole pot. I don't see many hands that can raise you, but he's going to bet anything that beats you if you check - so don't give him a free showdown.