BIG river decision

badplayer · #1 11-06-2006, 10:51 PM

CO is solid: 20/6/1.6
BB is obviously not: 60/19/1.2

After my admittedly loose cold-call preflop, I insta-raised everything until the river.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 3 folds, CO raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO bets, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG folds, CO 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls, CO calls.

Turn: (10 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, CO caps, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (22 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, CO raises,

Hero vomits and ?

sean c · #2 11-06-2006, 11:00 PM

Your asking if you should 3-bet right?

antneye · #3 11-06-2006, 11:05 PM

Why are we 3 betting sean? This is a crying call and nothing more. Of course if I am wrong, I eagerly await the explanation so you can edumacate me.

thank you Sir · #4 11-06-2006, 11:07 PM

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Why are we 3 betting sean? This is a crying call and nothing more. Of course if I am wrong, I eagerly await the explanation so you can edumacate me.

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the only flush hand that makes sense for villain would be 78hh. What hands is he still going crazy with on the turn?

Hielko · #5 11-06-2006, 11:07 PM

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Why are we 3 betting sean? This is a crying call and nothing more. Of course if I am wrong, I eagerly await the explanation so you can edumacate me.

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So, how often do you see a solid player capping the turn with a flush draw?

thank you Sir · #6 11-06-2006, 11:11 PM

Looking at his stats, he almost has to have QQ here. 78hh is not even an option with someone who only raises 6% of their hands preflop.

antneye · #7 11-06-2006, 11:13 PM

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Looking at his stats, he almost has to have QQ here. 78hh is not even an option with someone who only raises 6% of their hands preflop.

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I like QQ, but then this guy needs to be considered an a-hole for not realizing his Queens aren't worth [censored] here.

antneye · #8 11-06-2006, 11:11 PM

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Why are we 3 betting sean? This is a crying call and nothing more. Of course if I am wrong, I eagerly await the explanation so you can edumacate me.

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So, how often do you see a solid player capping the turn with a flush draw?

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You don't normally. But if I trust the read that this guy is not a maniac, you have to assume he knows the flush is out there, and he has seen our straight from the get go.....why would he be raising unless he has no fear of any of it. Unless he is a total donk I see no reason not to trust him here.

sean c · #9 11-06-2006, 11:13 PM

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Why are we 3 betting sean? This is a crying call and nothing more. Of course if I am wrong, I eagerly await the explanation so you can edumacate me.

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So, how often do you see a solid player capping the turn with a flush draw?

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You don't normally. But if I trust the read that this guy is not a maniac, you have to assume he knows the flush is out there, and he has seen our straight from the get go.....why would he be raising unless he has no fear of any of it. Unless he is a total donk I see no reason not to trust him here.

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I would be in shock if villian turned over a flush here? Don't forget about the BB padding.

Xylocain · #10 11-07-2006, 03:44 PM

:g:

I think the pf call is fine. If it was a notorious stealer I think you could 3-bet. Against CO I would just call and be prepared to fold to the flop.

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Hero vomits and ?

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You should not play drunkern, but you should take advantage of Vils spew by 3-betting. There is no holding in the world Vil might have that would be likely enough to keep you from putting 4-bets into this river (unless BB suddenly wakes up. Regardless of your read, his play is more scary but when he checks the river...).

CO will flip over AA or possibly QQ (I don't think he has 66 in his range). BB has two cards.