QQ - Call and See A Flop or Push All-In?

[Chicos75]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

CO (t5325)
Button (t3835)
SB (t880)
BB (t3690)
UTG (t5390)
UTG+1 (t1835)
MP1 (t1150)
Hero (t1815)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t300</font>, MP1 calls t300, Hero calls t300, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls t200.

Flop: (t1250) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t500</font>, UTG+1 calls t500, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t850</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1515</font>, BB calls t1015, UTG+1 calls t1015.

Turn: (t6645) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t100</font>, UTG+1 calls t20 (All-In).

River: (t6765) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t6765

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Ah 8s (one pair, eights).
UTG+1 has Jd Ad (flush, ace high).
MP1 has 3h 5h (straight, six high).
Hero has Qd Qc (one pair, queens).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins t6685. MP1 wins t80. </font>

[zoobird]

Next time you ask a question about a pre-flop decision, delete all the action after your decision point.

I push...plenty of money in the pot (relative to your stack) so you don't mind winning the pot now. The last thing you want is a medium sized 4 way pot (like what you ended up with)...you want more money and/or less people in there.

[registrar]

Don't post the results.

I think you have to push pre-flop here. Going to the flop three-handed with queens is risky enough but you're also giving BB great odds to call and close the action with anything reasonable.

Given your stack, the pot is worth taking down now. Ideally, of course, a push gets one caller and you're heads up with the thrid best hand in NLHE and an overlay.

[zoobird]

Actually, if we really believe all that stuff about chip accumulation in MTTs and squeezing every ounce of +EV we can out of situations, then ideally he'll get like 2 or 3 callers and they'll all have worse hands then him. Less chance of winning than the heads up situation you described, but much more +EV. Obviously doesn't change the conclusion about the right play at all.

[AragornX151]

Easy push with your stack. You're in a great position to potentially double up if the original raiser calls, and your call will enable other players to overcall after you, especially in low-to-medium entry fee tourneys (which is precisely what happened; hands like 3h5h had a cheap shot to knock you out). Additionally, the call of the UTG raise puts more dead money in the pot. I'd just move all-in and see what happens.

[nath]

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[Cornell Fiji]

Puush pf but not for the reasons that you imagine.

with the ability to add 40%+ to your stack preflop, you should be pushing a HUGE range of hands pf here

[AggroMob]

Push after those calls. QQ is nice, but you don't want to see a multi way pot. I'd be more than happy with the (pf) chips here.