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Old 10-26-2007, 10:44 PM
STARSCREAM. STARSCREAM. is offline
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Default 50NL river bluff, yay or nay?

I've been playing a regular ole 18/16/4 TAG game, villian seemed like a typical 50NL weakpassivedonk. Who bets this river here? Who bets it but bets less, or maybe even more?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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CO: $59.25
BTN: $63.50
SB: $59.65
BB: $50
Hero (UTG): $50

Pre-Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $2, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, BTN calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($11.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $11.75</font>
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:20 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: 50NL river bluff, yay or nay?

If he is passive then Im not too sure I like this. Villan can show up here with QJ, AJ, KJ, or a slow played JT on the river. Just because he checked behind turn doesnt mean he has nothing seeing as how you view him for being weak passive. Are you even confident villain will fold two pair here?
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: 50NL river bluff, yay or nay?

Seems like a spew to me
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: 50NL river bluff, yay or nay?

I don't really like it as you get looked up light as this is such a common bluffing line
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: 50NL river bluff, yay or nay?

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I don't really like it as you get looked up light as this is such a common bluffing line

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agreed, and i know it's counter-intuitive but i'd probably be more likely to call a pot sized bet there with a marginal hand than i would somewhere around a 3/4-2/3 pot bet. there's been many times where i've snap called with A high in spots like this because you're representing no hand, given how the hand has played out, except really a J, but even that i think there would be more thought process to the bet sizing. and what are you calling on the flop with that has a J and then checking the turn.
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: 50NL river bluff, yay or nay?

You're bluffing a passive donk on a board with 4 broadway with a bet/check/pot line. This is nay for like 5 different reasons.
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: 50NL river bluff, yay or nay?

Good to know, any type of player you would make this bet against, I guess a very weak tight player?
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: 50NL river bluff, yay or nay?

Unless I get a read, and a good one at that, I am not doing this against any player at these levels. I guess you could do it against a tight player, but I still dont like making moves like this as theyre juts unnecessary for uNL.
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