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An ATo hand
This is the 2nd time that I remember playing against this villain. The 1st time, I thought that he was quite laggy. However, when I had a look at his stats a bit later they seemed to indicate that he was a TAG.
Nothing has happened between us before this hand, and I had been running well. Here is what PT tells me about him: 16.9/7/2.4 over 142 hands, and here is the hand : PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls. Flop: (9 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls, MP2 calls. Turn: (7.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP2 folds, Hero ...? His turn donk seemed a bit suspicious. There again, I dont think that I have seen evidence of him bluff betting when a scare card falls. What do you think ? |
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Re: An ATo hand
I'm calling down. Perhaps he is b/f an A or whatever. He is too aggro to fold IMO.
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Re: An ATo hand
I call here.
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Re: An ATo hand
I would call aswell and prey that he does not have a King.
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Re: An ATo hand
I call down because folding just seems to weak. People with a low vpip like that usually have pretty narrow ranges for CC and calling in the SB. I expect a lot of KQ and AJ. but some paired [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] FDs and weaker aces are in his range too.
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Re: An ATo hand
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I call down because folding just seems too weak. People with a low vpip like that usually have pretty narrow ranges for CC and calling in the SB. I expect a lot of KQ and AJ. but some paired [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] FDs and weaker aces are in his range too. [/ QUOTE ] This seems reasonable. I think that part of the reason that his turn donk seemed suspicious, was because he also donked the flop. If he was a reasonable TAG, would he have been that likely to donk this flop with Kx ? |
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Re: An ATo hand
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If he was a reasonable TAG, would he have been that likely to donk this flop with Kx ? [/ QUOTE ] Maybe I'm not a reasonable TAG, but I would certainly consider it - especially against another TAG. The reason is, I expect the TAG to c-bet anyway and maybe the donk gets him to fold. Both this idea and the c-bet when missed seem more reasonable with less opponents, though. It might be ok if you add a back door flush draw, so maybe KQ [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. This looks like a situation where I just don't get it and call down. Both because I don't get it and because the pot is big. |
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Re: An ATo hand
To stay in on the flop without an A would be risky for me with 4 players esp at a loose table. If he has a K he might bet it on the turn rather than see it checked through.
If he had a K and ckd the turn, and you also, and then bet the river he would get one less bet unless you bet and he reraised you. Or he could be on a total bluff. |
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Re: An ATo hand
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If he has a K he might bet it on the turn rather than see it checked through. [/ QUOTE ] Would you have considered trying to check raise the turn if you had been villain and had a K ? After all, I raised pf and raised villain's flop bet. So, presumably there would have been a good chance of my betting the turn if I had been checked to. |
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Re: An ATo hand
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[ QUOTE ] If he has a K he might bet it on the turn rather than see it checked through. [/ QUOTE ] Would you have considered trying to check raise the turn if you had been villain and had a K ? After all, I raised pf and raised villain's flop bet. So, presumably there would have been a good chance of my betting the turn if I had been checked to. [/ QUOTE ] Does villain think this much about hands? These hands are really tough. There's not a lot of analysis we can do for you, it's just a read-based situation, and you have a better read on him than any of us. That said, I think you'll be looking at a king very often, but I call down because players sometimes do stupid things. |
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