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4 handed NL400. 150BB deep with the 2 tags, 180BB deep with the fish.
24/18 UTG: $600 55/5 BTN: $2,000 24/18 SB: $680 Me/BB: $745 24/18 raises to 14 UTG. 55/5 calls on BTN. 24/18 3bets to 45 in the SB. Hero? The reason I'm confused here is because raising with AK seems like it's equivilant to raising with 2 blank cards here. All 3 options seem viable. What's your play? Is it close? |
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If the button's as bad as he looks, post flop, I'd call.
Him being in the pot should make everybody play straightforward, but he'll still pay you off, because he sucks. |
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I dont have btn that strong as he Is probly just holding a mediocre hand he wouldnt call with unless he had pos(and that small stack [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] ), but this is a very tough spot. What range do you put sb making the 3bet on? But with UTG yet to act and at best your in a slight disadvantage with the SB in a flip, I think I would muck..but a very tough spot to be in.
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I dont have btn that strong as he Is probly just holding a mediocre hand he wouldnt call with unless he had pos(and that small stack [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] ), but this is a very tough spot. What range do you put sb making the 3bet on? But with UTG yet to act and at best your in a slight disadvantage with the SB in a flip, I think I would muck..but a very tough spot to be in. [/ QUOTE ] note: We're currently playing 4 handed, but the stats I gave are for 5-6 handed. All 3 players should have a fairly wide range here. UTG least so since he raises knowing the fish will often call putting him out of position. I think the spot is tough because although I have the best hand most of the time here, I don't think I'm ever getting called by a worse hand if I raise (125?) unless it's by UTG, and then I'm still in a very difficult situation. So basically, I'd pick up the pot PF, be OOP and without a clue how to proceed, or in position and dominated most of the time. However, calling opens the pot up for UTG to resteal. It was a toss-up between all 3 options for the duration of the timer. |
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However, calling opens the pot up for UTG to resteal. [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't worry about this. |
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i think i'd call. four-ways with > 5% of effective stack in pre, position on the reraiser, and like jim said, everyone likely to play straightforward with the button in the hand and the button being loose-fishy postflop (I'm assuming), i think flopping TPTK 30% of the time is enough for this to be profitable.
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i think i'd call. four-ways with > 5% of effective stack in pre, position on the reraiser, and like jim said, everyone likely to play straightforward with the button in the hand and the button being loose-fishy postflop (I'm assuming), i think flopping TPTK 30% of the time is enough for this to be profitable. [/ QUOTE ] Forum consensus: Call > Raise > Fold but all very close? |
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I'm kinda assuming this ends up four-ways because UTG probably calls with anything decent because he knows that if he calls button calls, and then button calls because UTG called. And I think this is preferable to 4 betting because there's too good of a chance SB has a hand (again I'm assuming Button is too loose all around, which increaes the likelihood of a junk 3bet getting stuck in a threeway pot OOP). And because drawing to flop TPTK in a four way pot where you have a decent chance of having someone dominated is a pretty good spot.
But even if they both fold after you call, headsup v SB with position having cc'd a 3bet, you'll definitely get some chances to take it away without flopping a pair. |
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Call >>> Raise >> Fold
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Call >>> Raise >> Fold IMO [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I agree. *** I really like your reasoning, LearnedfromTV. Very well put. I defaulted to call as my timer ran down. The more responses I read in this thread, the more convinced I am that calling is best and our hand is too good to fold. |
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