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07-14-2006, 08:09 AM
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U.S. stands Alone in defense of Israel
U.N. passes resolution 10-0 and U.S. vetos it. Of course, the United States is always right, so the rest of the world must be wrong, just like the majority of the world was wrong when it came to invading Iraq.
The rest of the world is claiming that Israel's response to attacks are "disappropriate." The U.S. is very family with exercising "disappropriate" responses, so I can see why we would have a hard time understanding the point of view coming from the rest of the world. Save Israel! Why, I don't know.........but let's save it anyway! 
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#2
07-14-2006, 09:57 AM
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Re: U.S. stands Alone in defense of Israel
The UN is almost a worthless organization. It is good for laughing at and that is about it.
With some turns in good fortune, bad diplomacy, and extra hate mixed into the conflict this little adventure by Israel could quickly become something worthwhile - A beneficial regional conflagration that may even explode into a nuclear conflict. Get your ya-ya’s out. -Zeno
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07-14-2006, 11:02 AM
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Re: U.S. stands Alone in defense of Israel
If you are an American, supporting these Israeli atrocities, that include attacks on civilian infrastructure, is tantmount to supporting rapturists and dominionists.
Drudge has a huge list of headlines in his "subheadline" upper left area at the moment. At the very top of them in red: [ QUOTE ] <font color="red">Vatican condemns Israel for attacks on Lebanon...</font> [/ QUOTE ] Then after that: [ QUOTE ] Hezbollah guerrillas fire 700+ rockets at Israeli towns... 200,000+ Israelis now staying in bomb shelters... Haifa residents told to remain in safe areas... Israel Intensifies Attacks Against Lebanon... USA warns against travel; authorizes personnel evacuation... [/ QUOTE ] If you are a rapturist, your heart should be pumping like mad...is this it? is this the end of days? Will the liberals and catholics get "left behind"? Then the last one [ QUOTE ] France condemns... [/ QUOTE ] well, maybe the rature is coming after all.
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07-14-2006, 11:29 AM
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Re: U.S. stands Alone in defense of Israel
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If you are an American, supporting these Israeli atrocities, that include attacks on civilian infrastructure, is tantmount to supporting rapturists and dominionists. [/ QUOTE ] I'm coming to the conclusion that we won't acheive peace in the middle east until there is a conflict in which civilian populations have been made to endure extreme suffering. Similar to what the inhabitants of Berlin and Tokiyo suffered. Stu
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#5
07-14-2006, 12:11 PM
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Re: U.S. stands Alone in defense of Israel
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If you are an American, supporting these Israeli atrocities, that include attacks on civilian infrastructure, is tantmount to supporting rapturists and dominionists. Drudge has a huge list of headlines in his "subheadline" upper left area at the moment. At the very top of them in red: [ QUOTE ] <font color="red">Vatican condemns Israel for attacks on Lebanon...</font> [/ QUOTE ] Then after that: [ QUOTE ] Hezbollah guerrillas fire 700+ rockets at Israeli towns... 200,000+ Israelis now staying in bomb shelters... Haifa residents told to remain in safe areas... Israel Intensifies Attacks Against Lebanon... USA warns against travel; authorizes personnel evacuation... [/ QUOTE ] If you are a rapturist, your heart should be pumping like mad...is this it? is this the end of days? Will the liberals and catholics get "left behind"? Then the last one [ QUOTE ] France condemns... [/ QUOTE ] well, maybe the rature is coming after all. [/ QUOTE ] This is very true. The two most dangerous lobbies in American foreign politics are unabashed Zionists and Sectarian Christians who believe in US intervention in the Middle East because of the "Rapture". When America decides to stand alone with Israel, it gives terrorists the twisted moral justification they need to conduct their activities. If America post cold war remained neutral and isolationist in regards to the Middle East, Americans wouldn't be dying in foreign wars or spending itself into economic oblivion like it is today. That one little nation has so much sway over American politics is ridiculous. But I guess saying so makes one an anti-semite and buddy buddy with Hitler to some [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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07-14-2006, 12:29 PM
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Re: U.S. stands Alone in defense of Israel
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But I guess saying so makes one an anti-semite and buddy buddy with Hitler to some [/ QUOTE ] No Peter, thats not why you are an anti-semite (although your bitter anti-israel stances are certainly circumstantial evidence), its statements like this: [ QUOTE ] The other incident involved "some sort of Jew" who was gyrating in ultra-Hari Krishna style, causing some people to view him comedically, other with embarrassment. [/ QUOTE ] And This: [ QUOTE ] "Do you see these as valid reasons for hate/dislike for Jews by Russians?" Dislike yes [/ QUOTE ] And This: [ QUOTE ] On the contrary, I have not formed any opinions on "Russian Jews", but showed by some practical examples why other people would form negative judgements. Their judgements are perfectly legitimate, just as your judgement would be for not walking into a certain section of town at night with lots of money. [/ QUOTE ] And This: [ QUOTE ] And why do Russians hate Jews? Is it genetic? [/ QUOTE ] And This: [ QUOTE ] There are reasons for dislike. [/ QUOTE ] That make you a clear anti-semite. Not to worry though Peter, you're nowhere near as bad as the OP, who pretty much spouted the "protocols of the elders of zion" verbatim in the other thread he posted in. Andy actually deleted his post.
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#7
07-14-2006, 03:47 PM
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Re: U.S. stands Alone in defense of Israel
Drawing conclusions from observance does not equate with racism or anti-semitism. I have no prejudiced views concerning any ethnic group. I just call what I see.
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#8
07-14-2006, 12:49 PM
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Re: U.S. stands Alone in defense of Israel
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If America post cold war remained neutral and isolationist in regards to the Middle East, Americans wouldn't be dying in foreign wars or spending itself into economic oblivion like it is today. [/ QUOTE ] When was America ever neutral or isolationist towards the middle east? Certainly not in my life time. Anyways are you suggesting that after the cold war America should have completely ignored the middle east? That is allow things like , letting Saddam Hussien grab Kuwait, or OPEC to conduct its business in Euro's instead of dollars? If the United States completely ignored the middle east, from the time the cold war ended to present, the Iranians would likely now be in control of 30-40% of the worlds oil reserves and already be in possesion of nuclear weapons. Stu
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#9
07-14-2006, 03:42 PM
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Re: U.S. stands Alone in defense of Israel
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[ QUOTE ] If America post cold war remained neutral and isolationist in regards to the Middle East, Americans wouldn't be dying in foreign wars or spending itself into economic oblivion like it is today. [/ QUOTE ] When was America ever neutral or isolationist towards the middle east? Certainly not in my life time. Anyways are you suggesting that after the cold war America should have completely ignored the middle east? That is allow things like , letting Saddam Hussien grab Kuwait, or OPEC to conduct its business in Euro's instead of dollars? If the United States completely ignored the middle east, from the time the cold war ended to present, the Iranians would likely now be in control of 30-40% of the worlds oil reserves and already be in possesion of nuclear weapons. Stu [/ QUOTE ] I should have said "became" rather than "remain". In retrospect, it would have been wiser for America to stay out of the Middle East including the first Gulf war. What good came of it? How many babies in incubators were saved? The only effective political system for Iraq that would keep a certain balance is a hard line secular dictator. But America has gotten rid of one, only to be replaced by "democratic" Muslims who act like religious dictators anyway. Would there be a problem with any Muslim nation today if America was not seen as the protector of Israel? I think not.
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07-15-2006, 09:06 PM
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Re: U.S. stands Alone in defense of Israel
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[ QUOTE ] If America post cold war remained neutral and isolationist in regards to the Middle East, Americans wouldn't be dying in foreign wars or spending itself into economic oblivion like it is today. [/ QUOTE ] When was America ever neutral or isolationist towards the middle east? Certainly not in my life time. Anyways are you suggesting that after the cold war America should have completely ignored the middle east? That is allow things like , letting Saddam Hussien grab Kuwait, or OPEC to conduct its business in Euro's instead of dollars? If the United States completely ignored the middle east, from the time the cold war ended to present, the Iranians would likely now be in control of 30-40% of the worlds oil reserves and already be in possesion of nuclear weapons. Stu [/ QUOTE ] pre WWII America was fairly isolationist, most notably selling weapons to both sides of both world wars until the part where they had to jump in. As for Iran, Iran wouldn't be in controlled of crazy american haters right now if the American government hadn't installed them in control of the nation. There's no reason that OPEC shouldn't be allowed to deal in Euros if they choose to, and the fact that we make them gives them yet another reason to hate us. Since the FED just prints money and the dollar isn't backed by anything, Many foreign nations think of using the dollar to pay for things to be atoned to stealing. If America had practiced Isolationist pronciples post WW2, we would be in a much better position right now and I dare say two beautiful towers would still be standing in NYC right now. Of course in no way am I sayig 9/11 was justified, but that's what happens when we allow our government's foreign policy to involve propping up dictators and sticking our nose where it doesn't belong. Especially when your messing with crazy jihadists we are against right now. Just don't try to convince PNAC of it.
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