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Old 10-24-2007, 04:09 PM
n4rf n4rf is offline
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Default AK on the river - Pushed AI by loosey villain

Relatively new to table, only played about 15 hands.

Things I noticed about villain:
-Loves to limp/call with awful hands, especially if they're suited.
-Stacked someone off when he limped/called a raise. Stacked someone with 5/2s vs A/Q on a Q22 board.



Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($51.85)
MP ($24.65)
CO ($25.05)
Button ($37.80)
Hero ($26.10)
BB ($23.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.35) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, Button calls $2.

Turn: ($6.35) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, Button calls $3.

River: ($12.35) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $31.8 (All-In)</font>, Hero?

Ideas? I know I had him beat on the flop unless he decided to slowplay a set, and I can't imagine runner runner 6's beating me here. However, I don't think it's a bluff here, since there's no reason for him to bluff since I've shown strength throughout this hand.
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: AK on the river - Pushed AI by loosey villain

I fold the river, you've represented a K the whole way. Why the small turn bet?
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: AK on the river - Pushed AI by loosey villain

Yeah I just realized that now. I guess I was playing a little "scared" against this opponent. It was a bad play because if he was drawing to a flush maybe a bigger bet could have gotten him off his hand. However, I believe that this opponent would not have thrown away his flush draw unless it was an overbet... he is a pretty big calling station.
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: AK on the river - Pushed AI by loosey villain

Turn bet should be bigger.


I would call the river. It's hard to put him on a hand here. I find it hard to believe you're not good 23% of the time here.
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: AK on the river - Pushed AI by loosey villain

Villain seems passive from your desc. You've shown strength the entire hand and Villain pushes anyway. I'd say he has you beat. You are getting better than 2.5-1 though for your $ but I don't think you are good often enough here against this guy with the line you took.

I'm not totally sure about this. Are these odds enough?
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: AK on the river - Pushed AI by loosey villain

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Villain seems passive from your desc. You've shown strength the entire hand and Villain pushes anyway. I'd say he has you beat. You are getting better than 2.5-1 though for your $ but I don't think you are good often enough here against this guy with the line you took.

I'm not totally sure about this. Are these odds enough?

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He's gettin ~3.3 to 1. Not all of villian's river shove plays since he has like $11 more than hero.
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: AK on the river - Pushed AI by loosey villain

Ya, I guess that turn bet was a little weak. Bigger turn and equal % of pot bet on river and the decision to call gets pretty easy.
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: AK on the river - Pushed AI by loosey villain

ok my math was wayyyy off here, and may still be. Anyway, after calc again I get Hero needs to call 12 to win 52.35. Is this right? In that case wouldn't his odds be ~4.3-1.
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: AK on the river - Pushed AI by loosey villain

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ok my math was wayyyy off here, and may still be. Anyway, after calc again I get Hero needs to call 12 to win 52.35. Is this right? In that case wouldn't his odds be ~4.3-1.

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hes not going to get his whole stack when he calls, you have to figure what the actual pot will be when he calls. after the 8, theyll both put in ~12 more if he calls...
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: AK on the river - Pushed AI by loosey villain

Sorry to beat a dead horse here, just trying to understand the math. Just correct my math where I am going wrong. Here's what I was calc to get 52.35

$12.35 + 8 Hero's bet + 8 Villains call + 12 Villains raise + 12 Hero's call = 52.35
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