100/200 vs aba

[Stinger88]

I've played with aba a pretty good amount. I think he respects my game and I certainly respect his a ton. I'm interested not only in the decision after he raises but also in what people think about my turn bet.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $100/$200
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $21294
Hero: $19700
Button: $38232
SB: $80271.50
BB: $26083.50

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $700</font>, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1700, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1700</font>, Button calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($5100, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4200</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $20000</font>

[DeMaci]

You strong turn bet when the scare card hits looks like fake strength to me, I can't see folding here. Lots of pair/gutshots, Tx diamonds.

[DenGreek]

I disagree. I think aba's strength is very disguised, and I doubt he is attempting a semi-bluff raise frequently after flat calling the flop and getting bet into on the turn by Stinger.

I like the turn bet but I find a fold after he puts you all in.

[DeMaci]

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You strong turn bet when the scare card hits looks like fake strength to me, I can't see folding here. Lots of pair/gutshots, Tx diamonds.

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EDIT: You obviously know him, but it seems like your range for his hands is pretty narrow. Floating is not a possibility? Ever just a bluff here? Ever just a pair/gutshot? People live talk themselves into calls, it seems online, people talk themselves into folds.

[Requin]

I think turn bet is pretty standard, and I think default is fold to the shove.

Do you think he'd ever raise A5/KT here hoping you'd see it as nuts or air and make a call with any ace? This is dependent on whether or not you fire the turn with a mediocre ace of course.

[KRANTZ]

fold

[donkey]

really easy call

[spino1i]

Ouch. If I had to guess I'd say your ahead here and to call the all-in. I think he raises flop a lot of the time with QJ, and repops you preflop with AK, AA, KK, and TT (as well as AA and TT being extremely unlikely) and those are the five main hands you are behind. You beat a flush draw, a flush draw + pair, a flush draw + straight draw, air, some smaller two pair, and AQ/AJ. You still lose to 55.

[ActionJeff]

edit- I don't even know lol

[ActionJeff]

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Ouch. If I had to guess I'd say your ahead here and to call the all-in. I think he raises flop a lot of the time with QJ, and repops you preflop with AK, AA, KK, and TT (as well as AA and TT being extremely unlikely) and those are the five main hands you are behind. You beat a flush draw, a flush draw + pair, a flush draw + straight draw, air, some smaller two pair, and AQ/AJ. You still lose to 55.

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Stinger doesn't really have much to work off of here. I doubt aba raises many hands on this flop, QJ included, and his preflop range is difficult to determine. One of the reasons why this is such a tough spot is because against many realistic ranges Stinger is making a huge mistake by calling.

-Jeff