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08-26-2007, 04:57 PM
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96 was a good year
Villain is 24/13/1.8. A typical TAG for this game. I've seen nothing but solid play from so far today. He may be slightly passive compared to myself but those numbers seem solid enough.
Button is 26/15/1.8 after 123 hands Limit: $2/$4 5 players Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG folds, CO raises, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls. This is standard for me. Anyone laying this down? Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img](6.5SB, 3 players) Hero bets?? CO raises, Button folds, Hero calls. I realize I donked the flop but I felt it was in my best interest to pry the button from this hand if I could. So my bet is an offer of leverage? Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img](5.25BB, 2 players) Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls??? Anyone raising now? River: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img](7.25BB, 2 players) Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls???? Anybody 3-betting. He's no monkey over there? Results: Final pot: 11.25BB 
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#2
08-26-2007, 05:06 PM
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Re: 96 was a good year
Id c/r the flop. The typical TAG is betting his whole range on the flop(even when its incorrect).
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#3
08-27-2007, 05:14 AM
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Re: 96 was a good year
[ QUOTE ]
Id c/r the flop. The typical TAG is betting his whole range on the flop(even when its incorrect). [/ QUOTE ] Nina do you think it would be a mistake if villain cbets this flop with AJo when its checked to him. Is there a difference when villain holds a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?
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#4
08-27-2007, 05:37 AM
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Re: 96 was a good year
There are not many better flush hands with which Villain's flop raise makes sense, so i go ahead and 3ball. Its probably correct to fold to a cap but i couldnt do that.
And most villains will pay off, i haven't seen many raise/folds on 2/4.
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#5
08-27-2007, 05:52 AM
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Re: 96 was a good year
About the flop.
I agree with Seth. A donk is fine if - CO will raise overs - CO will likely check Judging from the stats CO might check and donking is ok. But the "bet to make CO raise and protect my hand" strategy has the fundamental flaw that I already described. @Pegboy If you bet and CO raises you will get good odds on the turn. You can not fold you pair of 6 in that spot with your 2 pair outs and gutter. I dont mind that you use the info about CO's hand when he raises. But you better be sure to know which range of hands he raises with before you use it to lay down your hand.
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#6
08-27-2007, 11:27 AM
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Re: 96 was a good year
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Id c/r the flop. The typical TAG is betting his whole range on the flop(even when its incorrect). [/ QUOTE ] Nina do you think it would be a mistake if villain cbets this flop with AJo when its checked to him. Is there a difference when villain holds a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]? [/ QUOTE ] IMO it would be a mistake to bet this flop with AJ no diamond. They'll also bet the flop with Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] which is terrible.
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#7
08-26-2007, 05:14 PM
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Re: 96 was a good year
I think donking or check-raising the flop are both good.
Check-raising the turn is okay, the pot is big enough where you don't mind him folding overs, but if he calls, I think you have to c/f a blank river if he bets. Just call the river. It should be obvious to any tag that you probably have a flush and this one doesn't seem to care.
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#8
08-26-2007, 05:15 PM
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Re: 96 was a good year
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG folds, CO raises, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls. This is standard for me. Anyone laying this down? [/ QUOTE ] No way that I am folding preflop. 5.5:1 with a cold caller who is an idiot by definition. I know I have said it a billion times. But I am up several 100 BB's making calls with suited junk in the BB getting 5:1. My winrate making that play was (0.14) the last time I checked over 1200 trials. And that was for a range NOT containing 96s, but worse hands only. I keep repeating myself, but folding here preflop is ridiculous. About postflop. C/r the flop, you have huge eq and will get a lot of calls on a drawy board. As played its a mistake to c/r the turn IMO. His 2nd barrel range is prolly better than your hand. I 3-bet river. He isnt putting you on the backdoor flush.
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#9
08-26-2007, 05:17 PM
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Re: 96 was a good year
he gave you golden opportunity to 3-bet the river. do it!!!
-btw, love the flop bet...
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#10
08-26-2007, 06:22 PM
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Re: 96 was a good year
Oink,
I'm not sure about the flop equity idea? If i check the flop with the intention of raising I pretty much trap the button into the hand. All I have on the flop is a pair and a gutshot. I may be ahead but I still figure I'm best to bet out and hope the PFRaiser makes the button face 2 more cold.
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