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Old 10-17-2007, 05:22 PM
Sandviper23 Sandviper23 is offline
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Default What do you do against REGULARS who 3-BET you alot??

What do you do against regulars who 3 bet you alot?
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Old 10-17-2007, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: What do you do against REGULARS who 3-BET you alot??

It depends wether or not I am ahead of their range on average.

So, are they restealing when we have the button/cutoff, or are they 3-betting our early position raises a lot?

Are we playing timid post-flop?

Generally speaking, without notes or so, I tend to give them credit when they start doing this, but I take notes. I always take notes when someone has seen me fold more than normal.

Did they see us fold to 3-bets a lot in the past?

Just some ideas.
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Old 10-17-2007, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: What do you do against REGULARS who 3-BET you alot??

c/r shove vs thier cbets in reraised pots. Most of the regs 3bet a good ammount and they do it light, however, thier mistake is that they then go on and cbet in those reraise pots way to often. Make them pay for this.
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Old 10-17-2007, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: What do you do against REGULARS who 3-BET you alot??

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c/r shove vs thier cbets in reraised pots. Most of <font color="white"> </font> the regs 3bet a good ammount and they do it light, however, thier mistake is that they then go on and cbet in those reraise pots way to often. Make them pay for this.

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What do you think about the way I played this hand?

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $473
UTG+1: $218.95
MP1: $462.60
MP2: $290.85
CO: $192.65
Hero (BTN): $197
SB: $331.35
BB: $200

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $2, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $30</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $20

Flop: ($63) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $38</font>, Hero calls $38

Turn: ($139) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $129 and is All-In</font>,
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Old 10-17-2007, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: What do you do against REGULARS who 3-BET you alot??

would you have called if he had pushed the turn?
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Old 10-17-2007, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: What do you do against REGULARS who 3-BET you alot??

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would you have called if he had pushed the turn?

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I'm not sure, i would of been tempted.... I would probably call sometimes
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: What do you do against REGULARS who 3-BET you alot??

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What do you think about the way I played this hand?


Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $473
UTG+1: $218.95
MP1: $462.60
MP2: $290.85
CO: $192.65
Hero (BTN): $197
SB: $331.35
BB: $200

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $2, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $30</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $20

Flop: ($63) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $38</font>, Hero calls $38

Turn: ($139) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $129 and is All-In</font>,

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"Suicidal" is probably a good description.

Against an unknown player, the vast majority of the time you will be up against AA/KK and playing a small pair like this will get expensive long-term.
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Old 10-18-2007, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: What do you do against REGULARS who 3-BET you alot??

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c/r shove vs thier cbets in reraised pots. Most of <font color="white"> </font> the regs 3bet a good ammount and they do it light, however, thier mistake is that they then go on and cbet in those reraise pots way to often. Make them pay for this.

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What do you think about the way I played this hand?

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $473
UTG+1: $218.95
MP1: $462.60
MP2: $290.85
CO: $192.65
Hero (BTN): $197
SB: $331.35
BB: $200

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $2, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $30</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $20

Flop: ($63) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $38</font>, Hero calls $38

Turn: ($139) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $129 and is All-In</font>,

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If you are playing loose and getting 3 bet alot then you have to start doing stuff like this on occasion.

So to me it looks good, to many it probably looks alien.
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: What do you do against REGULARS who 3-BET you alot??

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c/r shove vs thier cbets in reraised pots. Most of <font color="white"> </font> the regs 3bet a good ammount and they do it light, however, thier mistake is that they then go on and cbet in those reraise pots way to often. Make them pay for this.

[/ QUOTE ]

What do you think about the way I played this hand?

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $473
UTG+1: $218.95
MP1: $462.60
MP2: $290.85
CO: $192.65
Hero (BTN): $197
SB: $331.35
BB: $200

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $2, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $30</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $20

Flop: ($63) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $38</font>, Hero calls $38

Turn: ($139) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $129 and is All-In</font>,

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this is fine and pretty standard (obv not everytime you have 55 here, but you have to put this play in a decent percent of the time)
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Old 10-17-2007, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: What do you do against REGULARS who 3-BET you alot??

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It depends wether or not I am ahead of their range on average.

So, are they restealing when we have the button/cutoff, or are they 3-betting our early position raises a lot?

Are we playing timid post-flop?

Generally speaking, without notes or so, I tend to give them credit when they start doing this, but I take notes. I always take notes when someone has seen me fold more than normal.

Did they see us fold to 3-bets a lot in the past?

Just some ideas.

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Some players will 3BET me alot from BTN, CO or from the Blinds. They will do it equally from those spots and do it often.

I fold alot to 3BETs but occasionally i'll play back, but its still costing me money in the long run. Its putting me in tough spots and i'm not adjusting properly.
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