Table Talk Ruling Against "Yukon" Brad Booth

Municipal Hare · #1 06-08-2006, 09:36 PM

Cardplayer is reporting that Brad Booth got reprimanded for verbally inducing his opponent to call an all-in. From their daily writeup:

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Elimination number two featured some controversy as Brad “Yukon” Booth and Tony Ma shared a heated debate on poker etiquette. Although not in the hand, Ma took exception when Booth promised Keith Tilston he would show him his hand if Tilston folded. The argument continued even after Tilston, who had made the call and lost to Booth's full house, was eliminated. In the end, tournament director Jack McClelland ruled in Ma's favor and Booth apologized.

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In a video interview, Brad paraphrased his table chatter differently: "You have ace-high . . . you're about to make the call of your career." Then Rich Belsky said that McClelland and Ma had a problem with baiting your opponent in a way that "affects the rest of the tournament."

Does anyone have further details on how the hand went down? I know of tournament rules against revealing one's hand before showdown, but this ruling extends well beyond that.

TomHimself · #2 06-08-2006, 09:41 PM

idk but seems like brad does this thing alot. he did something similar in a cash game against a 2p2er and like on the river he said something like 'u wanna chop" and got the 2p2er to pay him off or something

NewUser2006 · #3 06-08-2006, 09:44 PM

Psychological warfare is a part of poker, in my opinion. I'd be mad if I were Brad.

okterrific · #4 06-08-2006, 10:15 PM

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Psychological warfare is a part of poker, in my opinion. I'd be mad if I were Brad.

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i wonder how much of this arguement the WPT will show/discuss when it comes to air?

Army Eye · #5 06-09-2006, 05:15 AM

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Psychological warfare is a part of poker, in my opinion. I'd be mad if I were Brad.

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i wonder how much of this arguement the WPT will show/discuss when it comes to air?

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None, it wasn't at the final table

okterrific · #6 06-09-2006, 01:31 PM

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Psychological warfare is a part of poker, in my opinion. I'd be mad if I were Brad.

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i wonder how much of this arguement the WPT will show/discuss when it comes to air?

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None, it wasn't at the final table

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Damn i thought it was the final 6, might have actually made for an interesting episope w/ Yukon + controversy. all well.

Kind of on topic:

If the hand is Headsup and a player goes allin why cant the player whos pondering to call the allin turn over his cards and show the allin player to try to get a reaction out of him?

I ask b/c i just watched an old WSOP final table (the one Russ Hamilton won) and a guy did just that and it seemed to be ok back then. Why /When did that rule change?

nath · #7 06-09-2006, 03:51 PM

It's been covered a bit here but as I understand it the rule changed basically because in a tournament doing things like that to influence another player's decision affects everyone's equity in the tournament whereas in a cash game it only affects the two players in the hand.

pocketjesuits · #8 06-09-2006, 01:40 AM

I love the argument that you can't do something in a tournament that is otherwise acceptable, because it "affects the outcome of the tournament".

I guess you shouldn't be able to checkraise either. That might affect the course of the tournament for players not otherwise involved in the hand.

kolotoure · #9 06-09-2006, 03:38 AM

This is retarded. Maybe Scooty Nguyens hand should have been declared dead when he said call and its over

steamraise · #10 06-09-2006, 11:33 AM

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If the description is accurate, then this is a bad ruling.

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I agree.

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Maybe Scooty Nguyens hand should have been declared dead when he said call and its over

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"You call and it's all over baby" and takes a hit of beer.
What a sweet move. He was about to fold and then shoved
his chips in when he heard that. It was all over.