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#1
10-18-2007, 01:20 PM
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Red AA. 6/12 limit. Action on the turn.
I have A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in one of these 6/12 no fold'em 8 to the flop games and I raise EP after 1 limper. I get a caller MP plus about 4 others.
The flop is 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Checked to me and I bet, the next player raises and everyone folds to me. This is not a good flop or a good response to my bet. If I am beat then I have 2 outs unless he has 88. Then I need running Aces to win the bad beat jackpot. I re-raise to put him on notice that I have better than AK and he calls. Turn is Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I bet and he raises me. Recommendations here? I know that an overpair against one player you usually want to see the river. Is this one time to bet and dump your A-A to a raise? Thanks I'm sure that someone is going to ask for a read on this player. Well, he is not crazy that is for sure. I doubt that he would be raiseing a draw on the board that the [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] did not complete - e.g. flush draw. If he had less than a FH when the 3rd [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] hit I don't expect a raise. So, would he raise a FH on the flop and chase the other players out. I think not. I think he has the flush. 
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#2
10-18-2007, 01:31 PM
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Re: Red AA. 6/12 limit. Action on the turn.
Why are we r/r'ing a flop we don't like at all? And why are we betting out at the turned flush after the flop action? This seems a bit spewtastic to me.
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#3
10-18-2007, 01:36 PM
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Re: Red AA. 6/12 limit. Action on the turn.
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Why are we r/r'ing a flop we don't like at all? And why are we betting out at the turned flush after the flop action? This seems a bit spewtastic to me. [/ QUOTE ] Well, my first impression was that trips or better would wait until the turn to raise. So, I put him on a flush draw and re-raised. Since I did not have any [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] for a redraw it might have been better to call and see what the turn brings. Good point.
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#5
10-18-2007, 03:32 PM
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Re: Red AA. 6/12 limit. Action on the turn.
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Ask him to show you his flush and then call since you have 4 outs and odds to draw to the boat. [/ QUOTE ] Let me count the pot. 6 to the flop for 2 sb, that is 11 sb. The turn is bet, raise, 3-bet and call. That is 6 sb for a total of 17 sb or 8.5 bb. I bet the turn (9.5 bb), he raises (11.5 bb), I call (12.5 bb). I am 9% to hit a FH (AA88) - yes, the odds are there, correctomondo. Then I miss my FH on the river, I check and he bets. The pot now has 13.5 big bets and I am getting 1-13.5 odds. Hummmm..
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#6
10-18-2007, 04:13 PM
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Re: Red AA. 6/12 limit. Action on the turn.
Grunch
With no read whatsoever I check/fold the turn. If this player is capable of shenanigans at all, I call down. I don't ever bet out on the turn. I do however like the re-raise on the flop.
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#7
10-18-2007, 01:31 PM
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Re: Red AA. 6/12 limit. Action on the turn.
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Is this one time to bet and dump your A-A to a raise? [/ QUOTE ] I think that you are almost certainly behind, but you might have four outs. The pot is close enough to call a turn bet, and fold unimproved on the river.
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#8
10-18-2007, 01:40 PM
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Re: Red AA. 6/12 limit. Action on the turn.
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[ QUOTE ] Is this one time to bet and dump your A-A to a raise? [/ QUOTE ] I think that you are almost certainly behind, but you might have four outs. The pot is close enough to call a turn bet, and fold unimproved on the river. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks - 2 outs do come in sometime. I really can not give a free card here so a bet is mandatory agree?
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#9
10-18-2007, 01:33 PM
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Re: Red AA. 6/12 limit. Action on the turn.
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This is not a good flop [/ QUOTE ] I've seen this a few times here lately where people raise with an overpair, the flop comes paired, and the poster makes a point to say that the flop is bad for their hand. It really isn't. 1)Your can't be sucked out on by two pair. 2)The flop doesn't look like it helped you any, so people will call with all sorts of stuff they shouldn't. -McGee
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#10
10-18-2007, 01:38 PM
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Re: Red AA. 6/12 limit. Action on the turn.
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[ QUOTE ] This is not a good flop [/ QUOTE ] I've seen this a few times here lately where people raise with an overpair, the flop comes paired, and the poster makes a point to say that the flop is bad for their hand. It really isn't. 1)Your can't be sucked out on by two pair. 2)The flop doesn't look like it helped you any, so people will call with all sorts of stuff they shouldn't. -McGee [/ QUOTE ] True if no one has trips or better then it's a good flop for me and I have a very good chance to win sans a flush. Rainbow would have been better imo.
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