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Old 09-19-2007, 09:46 AM
sparky3474 sparky3474 is offline
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Default Wild man that ran good, unusual?

Give me a break or ease my stress

Villian is 85/15 for 47 hands and was 28 BB/100 hands, in that time he wins with two pair 5 times, has JJ, QQ & KK full houses, a straight, a flush, and four 7's (one 7 in pocket). I know this is just $hit happens but it would not stop, the four sevens was near the end just for a little cake icing. Is this just what happens when you play 85/15 but you usually have lots of losses to offset the wins?
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Old 09-19-2007, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: Wild man that ran good, unusual?

Perhaps you're playing too small limits? Have you considered moving up a few where there are less 85/15's cramping your style?
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:06 AM
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Perhaps you're playing too small limits? Have you considered moving up a few where there are less 85/15's cramping your style?

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ibtl
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:21 AM
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Perhaps you're playing too small limits? Have you considered moving up a few where there are less 85/15's cramping your style?

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ibtl

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Old 09-19-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: Wild man that ran good, unusual?

You will see your BB/100 drop drastically. With less 85/15's my win rate has dropped down from about 9BB/100 down to 2.7 - 3.0 per 100.

They can be frustrating in the short run but are very profitable in the long run.
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Old 09-19-2007, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: Wild man that ran good, unusual?

I can't count how many opponents who go on super runs hitting every conceivable flop combination that maximizes their win rate, AK2 when you hold AK and the turn comes 6 followed by a 2 on the river and he holds 62.

Or my favourite holding AA getting capped preflop with a flop of AK2 getting capped, getting capped with a two on the turn again and then having to call the reraise on the river when another 2 comes and him holding 92o.

They hurt of course but with patience and looking back over time I am positive on both those guys and of course they are no where to be seen anymore.

And don't forget sessions where you look like a moron with 60/40/4+ aggro over 80 to 100 hands because you are getting one helluva run of cards.

Sadly however, the table ususally takes off when that happens and you can't continue.

The point is just because you observe one actionable session be careful to watch and not judge his play solely on the results.

Make sure you look back at the how the table reacts, if he continues to play like that when he misses etc.

There are likely many times when I want to smack these guys down but when I look at how they played, they just kept on hitting their limps and because the table ended up all wanting in on the action, their preflop loose limps were not bad plays.

It's frustrating to an extent knowing 6 will limp in preflop all the time and you continuing to fold your crap early because its the right thing to do.

But its the only way to win big a lot more often than you lose big.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: Wild man that ran good, unusual?

If that was normal for 85/15, I would start playing like that myself !

The sample size is small, but sounds like the guy just had a combination of good cards and got lucky. However, over time, you would expect to see that player lose more than they win.

Nonetheless, a LAG will have their share of short-time luck, the same as anyone else. Also, because the LAG plays agressively, when he does get lucky it wont be surprising for him to win some big pots.

If you ever find yourself getting frustrated at your table, it may be best to just stop playing. There is no need to go on tilt. Just take a break for a short while, or perhaps join a different table.
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:21 AM
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If that was normal for 85/15, I would start playing like that myself !

The sample size is small, but sounds like the guy just had a combination of good cards and got lucky. However, over time, you would expect to see that player lose more than they win.

Nonetheless, a LAG will have their share of short-time luck, the same as anyone else. Also, because the LAG plays agressively, when he does get lucky it wont be surprising for him to win some big pots.

If you ever find yourself getting frustrated at your table, it may be best to just stop playing. There is no need to go on tilt. Just take a break for a short while, or perhaps join a different table.

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Well it doesn't really tilt me out, it's only nickle/dime but it does pi$$ me off, to sit there stay extra tight preflop and watch this guy go rampant at the table. I looked over my stats and I actually did not do badly against him, I showed him down with JJ vs 77 and QQ vs Ahigh and did not show down any loosers but it was shocking to see a guy run like this
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Old 09-19-2007, 12:07 PM
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Well it doesn't really tilt me out, it's only nickle/dime but it does pi$$ me off, to sit there stay extra tight preflop and watch this guy go rampant at the table. I looked over my stats and I actually did not do badly against him, I showed him down with JJ vs 77 and QQ vs Ahigh and did not show down any loosers but it was shocking to see a guy run like this

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I am glad that you got some $ from the LAG.

When I have a player like that at my table, I tend to try to isolate them, whenever I have a hand with reasonable showdown value against their range. For example I might raise/3-bet the LAG with something like A9o preflop.

However, if there are already some tight players who have limped/raised pf, I will usually just play my normal game.
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:33 AM
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Give me a break or ease my stress

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That'll cost extra.

Also, lol @ nOOb-on-nOOb violence.
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