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Old 11-07-2006, 11:10 PM
BaHorst BaHorst is offline
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Default Early small stack shoves. My AK?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t400/t800
(Ante: t100)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t3877
UTG+1: t7523
bahorst: t31778
MP2: t13965
MP3: t8804
CO: t15248
Button: t2417
SB: t12901
BB: t39761

Pre-flop: (9 players) bahorst is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in t3777</font>, UTG+1 folds, bahorst calls t3777 <font color="aaaaaa">

Do you shove in these situations? Or do i welcome a huge pot which i dont want really want? Not too close to the money yet.
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Old 11-07-2006, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: Early small stack shoves. My AK?

i think you definitely reraise to isolate here. your hand is vulnerable, especially oop. your M is around 15 though, so pushing is premature in case someone behind you wakes up with aces. if someone else moves in behind you, you can make your decision from there based on what you know about them, your odds, etc. something around 9000 i'd say is sufficient to discourage other players to come into the hand with you and isolate the all in.
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Old 11-07-2006, 11:53 PM
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Default Re: Early small stack shoves. My AK?

Raise it to 9k.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: Early small stack shoves. My AK?

push ur stack
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: Early small stack shoves. My AK?

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push ur stack

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That is an unnecessary overbet.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: Early small stack shoves. My AK?

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push ur stack

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That is an unnecessary overbet.

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agreed. the only hands that will call you are the ones that can beat you. raise it to 9K and if the big stack in the bb (who has you covered) moves in, reconsider... fold i would say.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: Early small stack shoves. My AK?

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push ur stack

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That is an unnecessary overbet.

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agreed. the only hands that will call you are the ones that can beat you. raise it to 9K and if the big stack in the bb (who has you covered) moves in, [b]call

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Old 11-08-2006, 06:29 AM
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Default Re: Early small stack shoves. My AK?

Given the stacks behind, my stack and the relatively small push, I actually quite like a call here. I'm happy to encourage any action behind except from the BB. If I'm not calling a push from BB after I've isoraised, then I don't see the point in isoraising.
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Old 11-08-2006, 07:14 AM
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Default Re: Early small stack shoves. My AK?

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Given the stacks behind, my stack and the relatively small push, I actually quite like a call here. I'm happy to encourage any action behind except from the BB. If I'm not calling a push from BB after I've isoraised, then I don't see the point in isoraising.

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Agreed, flat calling may lead some of the small stacks to push thinking they have odds. If someone flat calls, I probably wouldn't lay it down postflop no matter what with these stack sizes, and would open push pretty much any flop.

If the big stack reraises, your action is going to be read-dependent. I probably wouldn't fold to anyone but tighties/straightforward players.
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Old 11-08-2006, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: Early small stack shoves. My AK?

i like a reraise to 9k as well. ak is an excellent racing hand which is what u want here w/ the original raiser. however, with the big stack at the bb your postion is unfavorable to say the least. alot has to depend upon what kind of read you have on the big stack too. a push could prove to be disatrous.
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