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Old 03-27-2006, 11:19 PM
Mr. Mojo31 Mr. Mojo31 is offline
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Default did i leave money on the table

Probably a pretty obvious answer here, but I’d like some input all the same.

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Hero - $945
Bandit - $1,200

Hero is in the cutoff with K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Four limpers to me. I raise to $20.
BB calls. Bandit Calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Check to me. I bet $45 into the $62 pot.

BB folds. Bandit calls.

Turn:Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Bandit Checks. Hero checks.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Bandit bets $60. I raise to $120.

Bandit calls and shows the case king with a suited six. How often do you think this gets paid if I push? I realize he probably would have paid off more than he did... Bandit is very Laggy post flop, but a pretty good post flop player.

Any help is appreciated.
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Old 03-27-2006, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: did i leave money on the table

bet the turn, you can prob raise river to at least 180 the way you played
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Old 03-27-2006, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: did i leave money on the table

Bet turn, push river
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Old 03-27-2006, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: did i leave money on the table

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Bet turn, push river

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Yes. Bet the turn because K9, 99, QQ, straight+flush combo draws, and the case trips will all call or checkraise. Defining his hand is an added bonus; if 99 whiffed a turn c/r here and he bet-3bets the river and stacks you, it's your own fault.
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Old 03-27-2006, 11:43 PM
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oh crap didnt see the river was a 9 you can probably get away with a push there
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Old 03-27-2006, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: did i leave money on the table

Ya I agree more often than not. What I meant though was that if he has 99 there and we bet the turn, all the money goes in the middle. This way, those times when he rivers quads it's just a bad beat... you got it in as a huge fav and got sucked out on.

Bet turn pot. Make J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] payyyyyyyy and make every other hand drawing dead or near dead c/r allin. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] And if for some reason he check-calls turn, well push anyway because you get paid by K9 and Kx still, and only lose to straight flush (because he'll never have quad 9s given this action).
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Old 03-28-2006, 12:23 AM
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i dont like it pf

i value bet turn and raise river a lot more if led into

as played, raise river more
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Old 03-28-2006, 12:34 AM
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At b&m 2/5 games, I'd expect him to call a push with any K, any 9, and definitely with a flush (this is called the 'frustration/spite call'. At least that's how it works at commerce/morongo/bike if I remember right.
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Old 03-28-2006, 12:41 AM
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How often do you think this gets paid if I push?

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Unless he sees into your soul, roughly 99.9%
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Old 03-28-2006, 12:47 AM
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Unless he sees into your soul, roughly 99.9%

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Damn - I hate being a donkey.

Thanks for all the feedback everyone.

Theben - why do you hate the raise preflop? Little more background; this was an overly aggressive table. With all the limping, no one was on anything more than a small pair or a raggedy ace. Why not narrow the folks taking the flop with position and suited connectors?
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